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Game Discussion => General Discussion & Download => Topic started by: Kalebon on December 18, 2009, 09:05:49 AM
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I have a question and was wondering a couple of things since they give me difficulty.
the question:
1) how do you lower suspicion? I have had mine in the game raise and cannot figure out how to get it back down. (I currently am bribing the government officials but seeing no change in suspicion description)
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Bribes just lower your suspicion by a certain amount every turn, it does not have an immediate impact. Also, try increasing the amount if you can afford it. 100 gold a turn will not have much impact. 1000 gold a turn will drop it quickly.
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The better plan is just to ignore it, since I'm almost certain that it has no effect whatsoever. Except, possibly, for government raid events, which can be stopped entirely with a largish government influence from bribes.
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Enslaving girls, torturing girls, and kidnapping girls for non-payment (let him go and have your men follow him home) will raise the suspicion level, so are to be avoided.
What I have found to work the best for non-payment is to either take his daughter (if that option is available) or to send him to my dungeon, then torture and release, all in the same turn.
Following those guidelines, I am bribing at 100 gold per week, have a "Benevolent" reputation, and a suspicion level of "Town Scum" with no raids. ;)
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Suspicion is almost certainly the trigger for government raids; bribes do wonders to keep it down. By the endgame you can be torturing, enslaving, and kidnapping left and right and it doesn't matter because you're giving 25000 a week to the government, so your reputation still ends up at 'Town Hero.' :D
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It used to be that letting deadbeats go would lower suspicion, now aside from bribes I think the only thing that lowers it is freeing slaves (though that might influence alignment, not suspicion).
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That sounds like a bug, in which case.
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Question: What exactly does the accommodation quality do? Is there any kind of bonus besides happiness/love (e.g., a tiredness decrease)?
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I believe higher accommodation levels help lower rebellion over time.
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I think that might be through the PCLove stat rather than Obedience, though.
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Accommodations don't directly affect rebellion, though they may affect stats that then affect rebellion.
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So giving a girl royalty level accommodations doesn't lower her rebellion? I call BS, unless she utterly hates you or has some crazy type trait, excellent living conditions SHOULD lower rebellion.
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...Unless she then believes that being, well, a whore... is below her. Then she may... I don't know... rebel more.
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It would be nice if we know what room level accommodations do to stats. I tend to give all my places high class as I believe employees should be well taken care of but that is just me. :)
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Currently, it's purely a happiness thing. I tweaked the calculation to make it have a bit more effect, but I'm not sure that made it into the last release.
In any event, accommodation level affects happiness, and happiness affects rebellion, but it's not a major thing. Higher level girls expect better digs ... but mainly, right now it's a roleplaying thing.
I will see about addressing this once we get over the 1.30 hump. For now though, feel free to keep 'em in kennels if that makes you happy :)
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So giving a girl royalty level accommodations doesn't lower her rebellion? I call BS, unless she utterly hates you or has some crazy type trait, excellent living conditions SHOULD lower rebellion.
Well, excellent living conditions make the girl happier, and a happier girl has lower rebellion naturally. Which makes sense, really, as a nice room can be reasonably assumed to make a girl more cheerful and comfortable, but the living conditions in and of themselves won't make her listen to you more or care about your opinion.
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the living conditions in and of themselves won't make her listen to you more or care about your opinion.
Which is a fair point, really. If her basic attitude is "you're not that boss of me" then giving her nice digs isn't necessarily going to help.
I think part of the problem is that there is no "rebellion" stat as such. It's entirely a derived value based on about two dozen calculations and special cases. So it's not just a case of adding something this to the weekly update function:
girl->rebellion -= girl->accLevel * 2;
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How do you actually buy or get a new brothel or building? My current objective says "Purchase the next brothel" but I can't find anything that allows me to do so. Is this not implemented yet?
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How do you actually buy or get a new brothel or building? My current objective says "Purchase the next brothel" but I can't find anything that allows me to do so. Is this not implemented yet?
If you look on the town screen, there are two brothel icons at the start (the red lips). One is for the brothel you start with, the other is for the first brothel you can expand to. In order to expand, you need to be extorting money from a certain number of businesses (accomplished through gangs acquiring territory). When you reach the requisite amount (IIRC, it's 30 for the first one, click on the icon to see what you need), you can click on the icon and opt to buy the property.
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Is my game bugged then? Because all I see is one pair of lips. And I believe I have around 36 businesses taken over. Edit: Yes, 36 is the number I have.
Here's a screenshot: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1026/part1s.png (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1026/part1s.png)
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Yup, it's bugged. I am not sure what caused that to happen for you. It should be almost straight south from the market just to the right of the gate. Try starting a new game and see if it's there. If so then try saving, quit, and reload your current game and hope it's there. If it's still not there you may have to start over. If neither game has it then you can try to download and reinstall the game and repeat and hope it fixes the issue. If that doesn't work then I am really stumped.
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According to the screenshot, you are running v1.29, which is outdated. The most current version is 1.29.4.6 (get the full install here (http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=217.0) or download the 1.29.4 and 1.29.4.6 patches here (http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=176.msg2961#msg2961) and here (http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=176.msg3230#msg3230)). If you get the patches, patch to 1.29.4 and then to 1.29.4.6.
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Ok, now that I knew what I was looking for I ended up having to delete and reinstall everything plus the patches. Now it is showing up properly. Thanks.
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So their room quality does not do nothing or cost anything?
I always thought the better quality rooms cost more as well gave better rest.
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If I remember correctly accommodation do cost more but only give a happiness regen increase
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I also have a few questions
1. why is suspicion and disposition inversely related? as i free most slaves my suspicion got worse but i was labeled as a nice guy
2. how is the number of customers determined? when i have 20 girls working the brothel usually the last bunch dont get any work at all
3. it is said that girls will buy things for them selves, does this have a set condition for it to happen?
4. when girls get attacked on the streets, even if they fought off the rival gang with out losing health, why are they taken to rest, and when they rest why dont they go back to work?
thanks in advance if any one can clarify these questions
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Is my game bugged then? Because all I see is one pair of lips. And I believe I have around 36 businesses taken over. Edit: Yes, 36 is the number I have.
Here's a screenshot: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1026/part1s.png (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1026/part1s.png)
I had the same thing happen with me. all I had to do was rename a file
to quote delta
OK, you need to go into the resources folder and change the images brotheloff0.png and brothelon0.png to brotheloff.png and brothelon.png that should fix this issue.
http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=17.msg3523#msg3523 (http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=17.msg3523#msg3523)
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I also have a few questions
1. why is suspicion and disposition inversely related? as i free most slaves my suspicion got worse but i was labeled as a nice guy
2. how is the number of customers determined? when i have 20 girls working the brothel usually the last bunch dont get any work at all
3. it is said that girls will buy things for them selves, does this have a set condition for it to happen?
4. when girls get attacked on the streets, even if they fought off the rival gang with out losing health, why are they taken to rest, and when they rest why dont they go back to work?
thanks in advance if any one can clarify these questions
1. Suspicion is directly related to if you have your gangs do anything other than guard or do catacombs. If you have taken over any territory, your suspicion will constantly drop on its own.
2. There is a set number. You can increase this by having girls work at a bar or in the gambling room. Paying money for advertising helps as well.
3. They will by usable items if they have money (Your house percents can't be set at 100%) I haven't seen a girl buy a permanent item.
4. Matrons are as buggy as hell. Put up with it until 1.30, I believe that should be fixed then.
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Currently, there is no benefit to putting your girls on the streets anyway, as they draw customers from the same pool as the girls in the brothel. There are considerable downsides, as you likely have encountered, so there really isn't any point in putting them on the streets.
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I have girls that'll buy dresses and combs, but that's the most I've seen them buy (and ususally I've already given them one so I take the rest away. (yaya free items)
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Currently, there is no benefit to putting your girls on the streets anyway, as they draw customers from the same pool as the girls in the brothel. There are considerable downsides, as you likely have encountered, so there really isn't any point in putting them on the streets.
Really? That's interesting. Well, what about day and night shifts? Do they both draw from the same pool?
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so how many extra customers does the gambling hall and the strip bar bring?
how is it affected by the number of girls working there? if it has any affect at all.
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Day and night shifts draw from different pools. The number of customers the strip bar brings in increases with the number of girls you have working there. I'm not sure about the gambling hall, as girls don't get paid for working there, so I never put them on duty there.
My understanding is that you get something like (random base number of customers * advertising bonus + bonus from strip bar + bonus from gambling hall), though advertising could be additive instead of multiplicative. You have at least 3 random variables in the equation, though (as the customers you draw from the strip bar and gambling hall is based on the random number of customers drawn to those establishments in the first place [and the number of girls you have working in them, too]).
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so I was wondering would shortcuts work? (especially for the girl packs or items)
and what's the min. size for pictures?
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I dont think there is a min size for pics if there is a min/max we have never heard/ encountered it
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Shortcuts will not work, and there is no min or max size on pics but you want the pics to be on the large size since shrinking is a much cleaner process when dealing with images than enlarging since the games changes the size to fit the screen.
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Shortcuts won't work, but symbolic links will (what the technical difference is, I cannot say). Delta gave instructions in another thread, which I repeat here:
1. Install as normal.
2. Delete the character folder in the fresh install.
3. In the resources folder open the command prompt by shift-right click.
4. Type mklink<space>Characters<space><path to the massive character directory>/D
the <space> is just hitting the space bar. The path should be an absolute path so it should look something like c:\users\$username\games\whoremaster\resources\characters not ..\whoremaster\characters
I have my system set up with this and it works.
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The difference is that a symbolic link works its magic within the file system and when dealing with files in programming looks just like a folder when dealing with paths. A shortcut is an actual file on the hard drive that has to be interpreted through windows it self. Hopefully that clears it up.
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ok, cool.
what I ment for minimum size (and I should have said this...) was min. size so that the pics will not be stretched and blurry.
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I'm not sure if anyone really knows the answer to that. All I can say is the bigger the better. If you use the image archives in the mods section you shouldn't have too many problems as far as size goes.