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Game Discussion => General Discussion & Download => Topic started by: sgb on December 08, 2009, 12:13:29 AM
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Could one of the devs provide a list of how much the actual looks bonus from various traits give? I was testing a few things today and noticed a few characters I made had absurb looks values compared to other characters. My starting charisma and beauty values are generally fairly consistant, so I assume there is a trait or two giving a huge bonus. I've tested a few of them, but I have so many characters it's kind of annoying. Great Figure and Big Boobs aren't very large; I suspect Elegant or Charismatic is the one way out of whack. I'm posting here because it's not really a balance issue, it's just a FYI so I can balance my characters better.
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Give me a few minutes, will have a list of traits and stats.
edit-- here it is, a quick run down of the format. The number to the left of the stat or skill is how much the stat or skill is increased. Negative numbers decrease the stat or skill. If you see trait a
trait b
stat,value
that means trait a does not modify the stats. I hope this helps
Good Kisser
libido,2
confidence,2
charisma,2
service,5
Retarded
confidence,-20
spirit,-20
intelligence,-50
confidence,-40
Malformed
confidence,-20
spirit,-20
intelligence,-10
beauty,-20
Long Legs
beauty,10
Perky Nipples
beauty,5
Puffy Nipples
beauty,5
Charismatic
charisma,100
beauty,10
Charming
charisma,60
beauty,15
Construct
Half-Construct
constitution, 20
combat, 20
Fragile
Tough
Fleet of Foot
agility, 50
Dependant
spirit, -30
obedience, 90
Pessimist
spirit, -60
Optimist
Iron Will
pcfear, -60
spirit, 60
obedience, -90
Fearless
pcfear,-200
spirit, 30
Merciless
combat, 20
Manly
constitution, 10
confidence, 10
obedience, -10
spirit, 10
Mind Fucked
confidence, -50
obedience, 100
spirit, -50
Meek
confidence, -20
obedience, 20
spirit, -20
Tsundere
confidence, 20
obedience, -20
Yandere
spirit, 20
Lesbian
lesbian, 40
Masochist
bdsm, 50
constitution, 50
obedience,30
Sadistic
bdsm, 20
Broken Will
spirit,-100
obedience,100
Nymphomaniac
libido,20
confidence,5
charisma,5
constitution,5
Elegant
charisma,10
confidence,5
Fake orgasm expert
anal,2
bdsm,2
normalsex,2
beastiality,2
group,2
lesbian,2
Sexy Air
charisma,5
beauty,10
confidence,2
Big Boobs
beauty,10
constitution,5
agility,-5
charisma,2
Small Boobs
agility,5
charisma,5
Abnormally Large Boobs
beauty,10
constitution,10
agility,-10
Great Arse
constitution,5
beauty,5
charisma,5
anal,10
Eye Patch
beauty,-5
constitution,5
One Eye
beauty,-20
charisma,-5
constitution,5
spirit,-10
Small Scars
beauty,-2
constitution,2
spirit,-2
Cool Scars
beauty,2
constitution,5
spirit,5
charisma,2
Horrific Scars
beauty,-5
constitution,10
spirit,-10
Cool Person
charisma,5
spirit,10
confidence,10
Nerd
confidence,-10
Clumsy
anal,-10
bdsm,-10
normalsex,-10
beastiality,-10
group,-10
lesbian,-10
confidence,-10
Fast orgasms
libido,10
anal,10
bdsm,10
normalsex,10
beastiality,10
group,10
lesbian,10
confidence,10
Slow orgasms
anal,-2
bdsm,-2
normalsex,-2
beastiality,-2
group,-2
lesbian,-2
confidence,-2
Cute
charisma,10
beauty,5
Strong
combat,10
confidence,10
Strong Magic
magic,20
mana,20
Shroud Addict
confidence,-5
confidence,5
Fairy Dust Addict
confidence,-10
obedience,5
Viras Blood Addict
confidence,-15
obedience,20
charisma,-10
Aggressive
combat, 10
spirit, 10
confidence, 5
Adventurer
combat, 10
Assassin
combat, 15
Lolita
obedience,5
charisma,10
beauty,20
Nervous
obedience,10
confidence,-10
Great Figure
charisma,10
beauty,20
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thanks, I've been wondering about this too
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Thank you sir. This will make it a lot easier to avoid accidentally making characters with superhuman stats.
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If looks is the average of charisma and beauty, Charismatic currently gives +55 looks.
Also, take a look at shroud addict, it gives +5 and -5 to the same stat.
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Yeah, that's what I was looking for; I knew there was one that was throwing everything waaaaay off. Looks like I'll take that trait off everyone for now. Charming is out of whack too, with a net gain of +37.5 to looks.
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The net effect of Charismatic will be less (unless starting with Charisma 0), as Charisma and Beauty are averaged after being capped, but it is still grossly overpowered.
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I've modified the coretrait descriptions to reflect these stats. I didn't write in exact numbers in case they change later, but at least when making characters now you will have a better idea of what the traits are going to do to your stats. There were also numerous entires that were flat out wrong, like Manly saying -looks when it fact it doesn't do anything to looks.
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Eventually, if I ever get this gold reworking done, I plan to do a coretraits.xml file. If that happens people will be able to set their own trait values (and to a limited extent, effects).
Don't hold your breath, though: this current task is taking forever.
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Once that is done, I will have to go in a fix all the little things Doc missed. No offense, just stating the pattern that seems to come up.
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Arn't I usually the one who leaves stuff to be fixed ;)
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It's easy done sometimes. Programmers tend to be optimists, at least when it comes to the number of bugs remaining.
For instance I should have stuck to my original plan and given the gold code another week of testing, clearly :)
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eh, so long as it gets fixed, I'm fine(kinda) (though going back a version makes all items cost 0 to 20 gold), since, afterall, the config file is pretty sweet (also brings back memories of dicking aroun with WML back in my Wesnoth days), I mean, its not like I don't know how tricky fixing bugs is for even a simple program like back in my compsci class, much less something like this. I guess what I mean to say is keep up the good work and whatnot.
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There's a reason to do beta releases, and it's to find bugs. It's much more effective to have programmers programming instead of playtesting.
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Of course, sometimes the programmers have to playtest to determine where the bug is happening.