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Re: Want to help? Read this!
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2015, 02:54:19 PM »
Makes sense, give me two weeks to get home and I'll see what I have to offer.

Deal.

We have a number of very specific requests for a graphics designer that are world apart in impotence for the game than that silly black goblin thing. Truth be told, all of the people so far who seriously contributed to the project just jumped in and did their stuff, often without even asking :)

If you're still interested in helping out when you get back, we'll let you know what needs to be done.
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2015, 08:14:44 PM »
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There are a lot of thing wrong with Namis event :(

I've been fixing some stuff on the technical side but it will require a very considerable rewrite and it's not acceptable as it is now... there are also some things I don't get.

1) No event in the game should tell the player how he/she is feeling or what he/she is saying! Never, the only place we do that are menu choices and even those should be straight forward. We do allow explanations to advance the story that cannot be made part of dialogues.

2) Why does player gets pissed at Nami? Why is it assumed that she has l33t prostitute skills...

3) Approach is even less acceptable because player is assumed to be a brothel owner, there is no reason or conditioning to assume that at all. Neither is it a good idea to limit Nami to such a path, I don't even think that she is even a part Prostitute by design. Even if we add that as subtrait in the event, it should be through a separate fork.

4) You cannot simply turn a free person into a slave by trapping/beating him/her. That can be a way of trying to get some of your money back I suppose, but not to enslave her.

5) I've fixed some of the technical issues, you should not copy pictures from Namis folder, instead you should use tags.

6) We also have VN Sprite and emotions to facilitate conversations, I left examples.

I'll push it soon. Just want to check some stuff, if you could rewrite the event a bit and update the rest of it... that would be great :)
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2015, 08:54:23 PM »
I just pushed some fixes for the first part of the event. You can take a look at it at the repo. I prolly made some mistakes when remapping the images, that would have to be fixed as well.
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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2015, 07:38:05 AM »
I'll take a look at story part of Nami's quest after Konan stuff and interactions. We have to adapt quests to our concept, it's unavoidable and more realistic way than forcing people to create perfect quests.

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« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2015, 08:56:42 AM »
perfect quests.

No such thing :)

But there should be some guidelines...
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« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2015, 04:52:44 PM »
Deal.

We have a number of very specific requests for a graphics designer that are world apart in impotence for the game than that silly black goblin thing. Truth be told, all of the people so far who seriously contributed to the project just jumped in and did their stuff, often without even asking :)

If you're still interested in helping out when you get back, we'll let you know what needs to be done.


Home now, limited internet access because apparently things go to hell when you are gone for three months, but I am still interested in lending a hand.

I am not a graphic designer (sorry, I am always compelled to state this), I am a digital art and FX specialist, however, most people are unaware of where to draw the line between the two. In any case, hit me with whatever requests you have (graphic design or not, anything and everything) and I'll see about contributing whatever I can. Thanks for your patience in waiting to take me on, glad to be on board. Look forward to working with you fellows. *thumbs up*
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« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2015, 12:20:16 AM »
Heu :)

Welcome on board, Dark asked this already but is there anything that your are interested in working on? Another question: Do you have a working copy of development environment setup?

When you're sure at least about the later, lets start with something simple: pytfall\game\content\gfx\interface\images\elements. In this folder are the icons we use for Elemental Alignments, if a character has more than one, we crop the image (vertically) and show one image made up of several of these icon. There are some issues with that so an you make sure these icons or of the same height/width and all have the exact same amount of transparent pixels between the image and it's boarders (or remove that spacing all together).
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« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2015, 12:38:10 AM »
Heu :)

Welcome on board, Dark asked this already but is there anything that your are interested in working on? Another question: Do you have a working copy of development environment setup?

When you're sure at least about the later, lets start with something simple: pytfall\game\content\gfx\interface\images\elements. In this folder are the icons we use for Elemental Alignments, if a character has more than one, we crop the image (vertically) and show one image made up of several of these icon. There are some issues with that so an you make sure these icons or of the same height/width and all have the exact same amount of transparent pixels between the image and it's boarders (or remove that spacing all together).


Actually I don't, to the former and the later. Let me get to work on the later and as far as the former, whatever is a priority. I'll just go down the list one thing at a time. Time to grab a dev copy, or try to anyway.
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« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2015, 12:46:42 AM »
I've never used the sourceforge extension before, will I be needing that?


Edit: Got the extension and cloned to a local repo. It's been a while since I've used Git, should a checkout or fork a branch so that I don't effect the master branch?

Isn't that how it goes? Checkout/fork > edit > commit > merge back into master? It's been 2 years since I've used git.
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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2015, 01:51:49 AM »
You'll need some sort of Git software, we use Git Extensions because it seems to be the only one we could figure out without diving in too deep (out of the box so to speak). There is nothing at all preventing you from using any other soft.

1) You'll need Ren'Py: http://www.renpy.org/latest.html
- This one you just have to unzip, it has no dependencies and should just work.

2) After you've cloned the repo, you need to grab some packs from here:
- http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3403.0
- http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3401.0
*I would strongly suggest all Random girls, just so development is more fun with wider variety of characters around.
*Naruto (from both packs), One piece would be required to run most events/stories in the game. Rest is up to you to decide.

3) Start Ren'Py and point the projects path to whereever the repo is. We usually just clone the repo directly to whereever Ren'Py is.

4) Project should appear, if everything was successful, it should just work. We always try to maintain a working copy of the game, if something is under development (many things are), they are simply disabled or quarantined in order not to mess with testing other part of the game. We also all have testing files like the one attached below (mine). They are unique to every dev and are used to setup dev environment to the individual needs of every member.

Take a look around the game, maybe you'll find something that you'd like to work on.

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Re: Want to help? Read this!
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2015, 01:55:48 AM »
Isn't that how it goes? Checkout/fork > edit > commit > merge back into master? It's been 2 years since I've used git.

Checkout... Forking is a bit more advanced than our usual Commit (locally) ==> Pull ==> Merge (solve conflicts if needs be) ==> Push routine. I've only worked with forks once before, it's also a decent way if that's what you're used to. I'll prolly be trying that at some point in the future as well but it's not all that useful unless team has a lot of people frequently contributing to the same part of the game (which rarely happens in PyTFall atm).

Edit: You can PM me your nick at the Hub, I'll add you to contributors so you can push.
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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2015, 01:48:16 PM »
I want to contribute in the only way I can beside testing/feedback.
I Figured I could write some fuck texts for you. The way I see it, you will need quite a few.
The way I'd like to organize them is by SEX ACT, CUSTOMER TYPE, CUSTOMER SEX WHORE SKILL LEVEL I think it's already done that way anyhow.
Customer type would be class/wealth based. I figure I could get away with same text for wealthy merchant & noble, Royal & Celeb,clerk & generic townsperson,but nomad & bum require their own.
I'll leave an example below for feedback. I assume you can link the whore name & stuff into the text, so I left those areas labeled #customer, #whore & #cash to be edited.





DOGGY, VAGINAL (wealthy merch or higher)(Highly talented whore)


#customer chose #whore to service him. #whore eyed his expensive finery and determined to give him his money's worth. She undressed him slowly, skillfully stroking his cock as she pulled down his trousers. By the time he was naked, he was fully erect. #whore got down on all fours and wiggled her ass provocatively, inviting the customer. She licked her fingers and spread her lips for him. That was all the customer needed to mount her. He grunted as his cock slipped into her moist pussy. #whore encouraged him with gasps and moans as the #customer began fucking her in earnest. She used her well trained vaginal muscles to milk his cock as he fucked her. Soon the customer was sweating and panting and thrusting faster. With a well-practiced cry, #whore faked an orgasm, sending the customer over the edge.


#whore gently cleaned the customer's cock with a towel and whispered "you were marvelous" in his ear before sending him on his way. He left with a frozen grin, drunkenly swaying back out the door.


#whore earned #cash for her actions.



Hope that's what you're looking for. I didn't want to write a damn novel length thing that players will just get pissed at after the 20th time seeing it.
Oh, btw if you tell me the codes for linking whore name, customer type & cash, you can just copy/paste the text as is in future.


Example of unhappy customer:



MISSIONARY, VAGINAL, ANY, UNTALENTED


#customer was looking for routine sex. #whore was available so he went with her.


#whore self-consciously stripped, blushing furiously the entire time. When she lay down, the #customer got on top of her and guided his cock to her pussy. He had to force himself between her lips and push into her mildly moist cunt. He began thrusting slowly and #whore tried to match his movements with her own but got her timing all messed up. The angry customer slapped her and told her to just lay there. After 15 minutes of joyless thrusting, the customer finally busted a nut.


"If I wanted sex like that, I would have fucked my wife, bitch!" said the #customer before storming angrily out.


#whore made #cash for her substandard actions.
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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2015, 03:39:05 PM »
That's really good :)

I assume you can link the whore name & stuff into the text, so I left those areas labeled #customer, #whore & #cash

We can mass rename that, yeah. Proper way would be {customer}, {whore}, {cash} but hashtag is ok also.

I'd also prefer {worker} instead of {whore} for consistency in code.

This is what part of the text make up looks like today (I don't know of you have the dev version or not):

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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2015, 04:31:13 PM »
OK, a simple find/replace will fix the tags, since I've been consistent.
I don't have the dev version.
I tried to grab it today, but got confused on the latest repository stuff.
If I just DL the zip file into renpy, will I at least be able to view the current version?
I'll give it a try to see if I can figure out the structure & comply with how it is.
I.E. high charisma/high fuck calls X.txt file & so on.
(would love to do low Charisma/High fuck ... "{customer} came like a wildcat in {worker}'s pussy. He swore he'd be back, but with a bag to put over her head"  :D


I  don't need to actually edit the game, I'm afraid I'd do more harm than good. I wouldn't be making that much more work for you to replace the texts you already have. I just want to make sure they're all ready for a simple copy/paste on your end to keep your wasted time to a minimum.


I noticed the linked actions like virginity loss & stat upgrade are displayed in the same text box. I'm assuming they're called by a separate process or whatever & have no bearing on the actual fuck text?


Sorry if I sound like a total idiot, last time I wrote any code at all was HTML 2.0 & before that BASIC  :o


Just have anal and Lez to go on high cha/talent/ wealthy customer, so making progress. I've gone multiple positions for them IDK if you're set up to handle that or not (Standing,missionary,doggy)


Bum is gonna be hilarious too. Lotsa dick cheese & stench references lmfao


Here's example with proper tags:







LAYING, BLOWJOB, WEALTHY, HIGHLY TALENTED


{customer} needed to bust a nut and he was in the mood for a good cock-sucking.  He went with {worker} to her room.
{worker} undressed the customer and pushed him down on the bed. She crawled toward his crotch like a hunting cat and began to jerk him to erection.  Still stroking him, she began sucking his cock. She was so skillful, the {customer} grabbed handfulls of sheet and curled his toes as he began to pant.  {worker} licked his balls, then took his cock to the base. The {customer} couldn't take it any more and came hard in her mouth.
{worker} complimented his virility as she toweled him off.  the {customer} puffed out his chest and dressed, whistling happily as he left.
{worker} made {cash} for her efforts.
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« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2015, 04:44:49 PM »
OK, a simple find/replace will fix the tags, since I've been consistent.
I don't have the dev version.
I tried to grab it today, but got confused on the latest repository stuff.
If I just DL the zip file into renpy, will I at least be able to view the current version?
I'll give it a try to see if I can figure out the structure & comply with how it is.

Just until the next version of Ren'Py comes out, you'll also have to update Ren'Py to per-release channel after grabbing the latest version, we are using some features that are not in the release version yet.

Otherwise it will work as long as you download a couple of packs as well, there are instructions couple of posts back.

I noticed the linked actions like virginity loss & stat upgrade are displayed in the same text box. I'm assuming they're called by a separate process or whatever & have no bearing on the actual fuck text?

Well, some of it is checked elsewhere but most of the report is built by one function that contains all checks and texts, all extra info from stuff that happened elsewhere is passed to it. At this moment we do two checks for this job, one is for beauty and the other for skill but you don't have to write the texts for everything, just roll with whatever you feel like (aka don't kill the creative process with rules/demands while on the roll :D ).
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