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Title: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 10, 2010, 02:27:43 AM
Who is working on new scripting engine? I ask this, because I was told it would come out soon, however "soon" is relative term. I'd like to see those "unavailable options" in action (lesbian, gang threesome).
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: TF on August 10, 2010, 02:36:12 AM
DocClox has been handling most of the conversion to Lua, I believe, but he had surgery last week to have his appendix removed, so until he's back, I'm afraid "soon" is probably the best anyone is going to be able to tell you.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: necno on August 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
To quote 3D Realms "When its done" :D
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: DocClox on August 11, 2010, 12:21:44 AM
but hopefully before Duke Nukem Forever :)
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 11, 2010, 02:37:04 PM
I hope you'll reduce quantity of losing HP to torture (except for fragile girls), because it's just wrong for a girl to die of torture if she was in good and full health (near death is still OK).

If you decide to leave torturing equations as it is, it would be a good thing to make an item (emergency medkit for dungeon), that would reduce chance of 100% HP girl dying of a single torture to 0.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: TF on August 11, 2010, 03:00:54 PM
Technically it's not the torture causing the hp loss. If a girl loses the vast majority of her health after you choose to torture her, her rebelliousness was high enough that she attempted to escape and was injured when you and your goons subsequently thwarted her attempt. Torturing in and of itself only knocks off something like 3% of health each time.

That being said, it would be nice if there were some effect after a girl's escape attempt is thwarted. At the moment, she seems just as ready to mount a new attempt the next week and be severely injured once again. Perhaps a failed escape attempt could put a dent in rebellion, or have an elevated chance of removing Iron Will/Fearless traits.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 11, 2010, 03:11:17 PM
Pc Love - Pc Hate.

I don't know if I'm correct, but if one of the above has any percentage, the other should be zero. Or is there 50% - 50% percent chance for complicated love-hate relationship?  :)
 
Oh, suggestion for slavery: slaves should be only bought at market and make you less profit (worn out second hand merchandise after all  :) ). Everyone else should be "free" (customer daughters, dungeon girls) until you brand them. Legally though they would be obligated to work for you: see http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=389.30 (http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=389.30)
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 12, 2010, 12:06:25 PM
As for picture formats which pictures are more appropriate: "portrait" type or "landscape" type of .jpg?
Or does it matter either way?
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on August 12, 2010, 01:45:11 PM
Doesn't really matter. Landscape types tend to "fill in the blanks" better then portrait types the way the summary screen is set up. But portraits don't look godawful either.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 12, 2010, 05:46:50 PM
Will it be possible to activate some pictures only if there are pre-existing conditions?

For example:
You have girl A and girl B working for you. And you have a lesbian picture of A and B girl together. Is it possible to set up game so that that picture doesn't show up (except in gallery) unless you have both girls?
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on August 12, 2010, 06:20:34 PM
Doc would have to confirm this but I think you will be able to call specific images with the Lua scripting engine.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: DocClox on August 12, 2010, 06:31:43 PM
Yeah, although I'm not sure about allowing interventions for the pics displayed for sex acts and the like.

Then again, it's jut another hook. Trouble is they all need writing...
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 22, 2010, 05:34:16 PM
So, how complete is new scripting engine? 80%? When do you think it will be ready and downloadable?
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: LordJerle on August 22, 2010, 11:21:45 PM
Doc's working on it, and he's in the hospital again right now, so it may be awhile.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 23, 2010, 07:40:54 AM
Doc's working on it, and he's in the hospital again right now, so it may be awhile.

Again?! Post-surgery complications? Sepsis?
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: LordJerle on August 23, 2010, 01:46:46 PM
Dunno, all I know is he left this on the google wave on the 17th:
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  Doc: annnnnd.... back into hospital in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....



Back as soon as I can guys :)

I encourage everybody to leave a get well card in the get well card thread.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: DocClox on August 28, 2010, 07:43:36 AM
Yeah, a nasty great big abcess. They had to cut me open again to clean it out properly.

I'm out now, but going to take it a bit easy for a little bit.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: drake on August 28, 2010, 12:46:04 PM
Good luck on getting better.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on August 29, 2010, 09:18:57 AM
Yeah, a nasty great big abcess. They had to cut me open again to clean it out properly.

I'm out now, but going to take it a bit easy for a little bit.

Mystery of why you got in hospital again - solved. And thank God you're O.K. now. Let's hope doctors did their job right this time and you don't have to go to hospital for the third time. Get well.  8)
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 03, 2010, 01:17:54 PM
but hopefully before Duke Nukem Forever :)
NOT QUITE, MOTHERFUCKERS!

ALWAYS BET ON DUKE
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 07, 2010, 10:56:18 PM
ALWAYS BET ON DUKE

3D Realms... Not so much.

Wish I could get a job circle jerking in an office (or whatever the hell they did) for a decade and not have to show anything for it.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 08, 2010, 09:01:08 AM
did you miss pax or something?

also, 3d realms isn't working on the game, gearbox is
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Tweaker69 on September 08, 2010, 12:59:21 PM
I hope you're still feeling well, Doc! Take care of the important things like staying healthy, and try to ignore the selfish pleas from the faceless masses. You're worth a Hell of a lot more than just your value at producing these fun games. Cheers!

did you miss pax or something?

also, 3d realms isn't working on the game, gearbox is
 
The point still stands, as it was 3D Realms who spent 13 years on it and still had fuck all to show for it. Until we all see an actual game, DNF will remain VaporWare.

And even then... Just how ground-breaking do you really think this novelty FPS is going to be? I'd suggest bracing for disappointment.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 08, 2010, 01:37:34 PM
no, it doesn't stand, do you need everything spelled out for you?

2k sued 3d realms for failure to finish the game, and transferred the development to gearbox, which now showed the playable hands-on that looks awesome

and who said anything about breaking new ground? it's duke fucking nukem, I don't want it to be revolutionary or new, I want it to be duke nukem
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 08, 2010, 04:37:25 PM
no, it doesn't stand, do you need everything spelled out for you?


The point does stand. The point was 3d realms was filled with a ton of wankers.

Saying 3d Realms was sued by 2k and then development switched to gearbox just validates that point.

I would think, as an obvious Duke fan, you'd agree with that. 
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 08, 2010, 05:05:11 PM
I get what you're saying, but where does "Until we all see an actual game, DNF will remain VaporWare" fit in all that?
we did see the game

and I can't hold a grudge against 3d realms after all they have done
besides, they were funding the project out of their own pocket, it's not like they didn't care
they just got lost along the way
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 08, 2010, 05:49:50 PM
I get what you're saying, but where does "Until we all see an actual game, DNF will remain VaporWare" fit in all that?
we did see the game

Never said DNF was gonna be vaporware. Just argued 3dR was incompetent.

and I can't hold a grudge against 3d realms after all they have done
besides, they were funding the project out of their own pocket, it's not like they didn't care
they just got lost along the way

Yeah but at what point do you say "maybe we should release what we have and put the rest in a sequel"?

At least it would have gotten Take Two off their back. I mean, 5 million is a lot of fucking money to pay someone for something and get diddly in return. Not to mention the 12 mil they payed infogrames. Nor the public hissy fit 3DR had around 2003-4 when 2K wanted to know what the hell was up with production. Yelling at the people who lent you money, because they wanted something to show for their investment, is a good sign you don't have anything to show for their investment. 

Course, Gearbox has the torch now. So we know it will be both awesome and (more importantly) released.  :D
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 08, 2010, 06:32:50 PM
I was responding to tweaker69 and his vaporware remark, it pretty much threw me off your post

as for 3d realms, from what I saw at pax and from what I remember from the past years, I doubt what they have now came from gearbox... at all
they probably just polished up the graphics, worked with voice actors, and spent most of the time on working things out for the consoles, before re-re-announcing the game
and, where did you get the 12 mil thing from? I know they (allegedly) asked for 5 million from take two, but had spent 20 million out of their own pocket, which is why take two had so much trouble with the lawsuit: they didn't fund the game

I think 3dr just wanted to make it more perfect than they could, which resulted in too much time going by, which resulted in their tech getting outdated, which fucked them up the ass
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Tweaker69 on September 08, 2010, 06:58:47 PM
I was responding to tweaker69 and his vaporware remark, it pretty much threw me off your post

And if they don't release the full game by the release date, it will still be VaporWare. A demo is just a demo, though it's certainly a step in the right direction and gives a much better indication that the full product will eventually be released (Though not necessarily on time). Sorry that I got your panties all in a bunch, but that is just the way it is. It remains, by its very definition, VaporWare until it is released on or before its (latest in a long line of) announced release date. And before you start frothing at the mouth, I admit that at this time there is finally a significant ray of hope that it won't remain so.

Personally, I hope it will finally shed its status as a Comically Mythical Being. Even better... That it will actually be a fun and well-designed game worthy of carrying its own name.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 08, 2010, 07:14:53 PM

and, where did you get the 12 mil thing from? I know they (allegedly) asked for 5 million from take two, but had spent 20 million out of their own pocket, which is why take two had so much trouble with the lawsuit: they didn't fund the game


Sorry, wasn't clear on who you where addressing.

Anyhow, need to edit my post. Should have said Take Two and not 2k.

Also, 12 mil was one of the numbers thrown around with this whole debacle. After googling the whole mess I see that 5 mil was indeed the sum Take Two invested and 12 mil was how much they spent to buy the publishing rights from Infogrames. And I also see that the lawsuit came after 3DR asked for more money to complete the game.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 08, 2010, 07:28:47 PM
@ sir tweaker
you seem to have some serious communication issues, dear sir

your apparent habit of using capital letters mid-word and in words that do not warrant capitalization, as well as accentuating certain words, sometimes multiple non-adjacent words in a sentence using italics and such only serves to affirm the impression

you may have noticed I write this in a rather gentlemanly manner
that is because I wish you to consider this not an insult, but rather a gentlemanly gesture; a chance for you to improve your own gentlemanliness, one gentleman to another


@lorde
to be perfectly honest, 5 million is a pathetic sum for a publisher
they had no right to throw a tantrum about anything
and it's not that 3dr had nothing to show for the 12 years they worked on it, they just wanted more
say what you will, but what we saw under that gearbox label was all 3d realms
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Tweaker69 on September 08, 2010, 07:50:36 PM
@ sir tweaker
you seem to have some serious communication issues, dear sir

your apparent habit of using capital letters mid-word and in words that do not warrant capitalization, as well as accentuating certain words, sometimes multiple non-adjacent words in a sentence using italics and such only serves to affirm the impression

you may have noticed I write this in a rather gentlemanly manner
that is because I wish you to consider this not an insult, but rather a gentlemanly gesture; a chance for you to improve your own gentlemanliness, one gentleman to another

Wow, and here I was thinking you wrote all of this simply to be a complete douchebag. I shall endeavor to communicate as effectively and as politely as your posts tend to be, bitch. There, that should about do it.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 08, 2010, 08:01:46 PM

@lorde
to be perfectly honest, 5 million is a pathetic sum for a publisher
they had no right to throw a tantrum about anything

I don't think it was the money but the time involved and the tantrums 3dr threw when asked to show something. "It'll be done when it's done!" Is the worst thing you can say in the gaming industry. And even though 5 mil is a drop in the bucket, it's still 5 mil for services that where not rendered. And with little indication of when they would be.

and it's not that 3dr had nothing to show for the 12 years they worked on it, they just wanted more

And that's the problem. You touched on the theory before that 3DR was building the game, saw that it was outdated and wanted to build it better. Well that's great and all, but they did that for 12 years. At some point, someone had to have realized they where never gonna catch up with "churn" and should have released what they had.

  say what you will, but what we saw under that gearbox label was all 3d realms

Won't contest this. However, I will say Gearbox developing the game (Even if they just tidied up loose ends) is best for the Franchise. 3DR had a huge Amount of expectation built up around the game. And it only increased as the years wore on. Nothing 3DR released would have been good enough. (Wasn't there a joke floating around that the game had better cure cancer in order to be worth the 10+ year wait?) So under new development, the game has a shot of being taken seriously after it is released.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 08, 2010, 08:13:17 PM
@ lord tweaker
you are not very apt to acting a gentleman

I also fail to see what a tool of vaginal hygiene  has to do with the discussion at hand
unless, of course, as a device that introduces a stream of liquid into a vagina, it was used as a metaphor for a penis
so, I'd assume you are insulting my honor by comparing me to a penis. however, you then proceed to call me a female dog, which, to the best of my knowledge, possesses no external reproductive organs. this conundrum has me rather perplexed, you see, as I am having a bit of trouble determining the common denominator of the two

you, sir, are an enigma

@lorde
I'd call it misguided perfectionism
and, while I agree with you, I respect 3d realms' sense of commitment with no palpable product much more than the developers and publishers taking their games and fanbase lightly, churning out half-assed products for the masses (or rather, their money)
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 08, 2010, 08:25:39 PM
I don't think it was so much a sense of commitment as a sense of panic. The more they worked on it, the more expectation grew and the more they "knew" they wouldn't reach that expectation.

I mean, a game going 1 year over production elicits grumbling from the masses (Half life 2 episode 3 anyone?) 3 years over and you had better release something, anything. 12 years over and people like me are gonna make jokes about you circle jerking in your office on a web forum.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 08, 2010, 08:32:33 PM
ep 3 is probably a bad example, as the masses aren't grumbling, and gabe doesn't give a shit

I doubt they were panicking after years of not releasing dnf
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 08, 2010, 08:35:11 PM
I'm grumbling  :D
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Tweaker69 on September 08, 2010, 10:37:30 PM
First of all, my sincere apologies to the OP for my part in derailing this thread.

@ lord tweaker
you are not very apt to acting a gentleman
(Looks over fixet's posting history)  :D

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I also fail to see what a tool of vaginal hygiene  has to do with the discussion at hand
unless, of course, as a device that introduces a stream of liquid into a vagina, it was used as a metaphor for a penis
so, I'd assume you are insulting my honor by comparing me to a penis. however, you then proceed to call me a female dog, which, to the best of my knowledge, possesses no external reproductive organs. this conundrum has me rather perplexed, you see, as I am having a bit of trouble determining the common denominator of the two
I can't be held responsible for the extent of your limited powers of understanding. If I had known you were so severely handicapped, I wouldn't have engaged you in diuscussion at all, as it is unfair to confuse the mentally challenged for shits and giggles. (That means: "for fun")

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you, sir, are an enigma
Oh boy! I guess that puts me right up there with polysyllabic words and unpeeled bananas in your eyes. What an honor... I'm now going to join the entirety of the (human) female population by completely ignoring you. Thanks for playing.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Abtakha on September 09, 2010, 03:56:52 AM
Don't we have a topic for, y'know, going... off-topic on? ;)
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 09, 2010, 06:31:11 AM
female
oh, dear, that does explain a lot

but why do you carry such a burning hatred towards douchebags?
one would think you wouldn't call a stranger you do not seem fond of the name of a device that keeps your vagina clean

Don't we have a topic for, y'know, going... off-topic on? ;)
we do?
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Abtakha on September 09, 2010, 11:40:03 AM
Hasn't been used since March, but it's still there. :o
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: fixet on September 09, 2010, 01:04:22 PM
I would like to apologize, tweaker69

I thought you said "rest of the female population", which led me to believe you were a woman, and since women can't be gentlemen, I assumed you were offended

however, rereading your post, I see that is not the case, and you were actually implying women find me repulsive
aside the fact such conclusions virtually always come from personal experience, I'll have you know quite a few women find me quite dashing
I am muscular, have blue eyes, and a red goddamn beard. that's right, I am like the young clint eastwood, if he had a mesmerizing cerulian stare that could cause a heart attack and was a pirate

and what do you have? nothing
you have your little generic internet handle with silly numbers at the end to distinguish you from every other tweaker, you have your social misadjustments, and your internet rage

one day, when you are old and alone at your computer, you will hear the roaring thunder of twelve trucks pulling a massive trailer upon which shall lie the most amazing sight your sub-par eyes will ever be set upon. a colossal ship of wood and silk, its 213 side canons staring you down, and above them, somewhere close to the mast, you will see two blue dots. and just as the realization sets in, you will grab at your chest, jut in time to feel that last, painful pump of your heart. you will curse me with your last breath, but I won't even know you were there.

and that is how much more awesome than you I am
I'd thank you for playing, but you never even got to the bench
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Lorde on September 09, 2010, 01:07:55 PM
Hasn't been used since March, but it's still there. :o

Isn't going off topic in an off topic thread On Topic and therefore paradoxical?  ;D
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Tweaker69 on September 09, 2010, 05:37:16 PM
Isn't going off topic in an off topic thread On Topic and therefore paradoxical?  ;D

I tried to post off-topic in that thread when it first started, but right before I clicked "submit" my keyboard exploded.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: Abtakha on September 10, 2010, 01:13:23 AM
I tried to post off-topic in that thread when it first started, but right before I clicked "submit" my keyboard exploded.


Seems you're better off than those who's heads 'sploded within the first few pages :D
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: LordJerle on September 10, 2010, 02:19:06 AM

Seems you're better off than those who's heads 'sploded within the first few pages :D
Yeah, sorry, was testing cranial implants to use on trolls.  Didn't end well.  Instead of zapping, it went boom.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: adrian24 on March 02, 2011, 10:03:55 AM
Who is working on new scripting engine? I ask this, because I was told it would come out soon, however "soon" is relative term. I'd like to see those "unavailable options" in action (lesbian, gang threesome).

So, has anyone made a new scripting engine? I mean I know, there's not going to be Whore master 1.31, but at least finished scripting engine for the old one would be nice.
Title: Re: Scripting engine question
Post by: DocClox on March 02, 2011, 11:16:51 AM
Well the code for it is largely in svn. What it's lacking is a few dozen hooks into the C++ game where it can catch the event, pass control back to the script, and then apply the result.

The code is in my branch, and IIRC largely working. Just a lot of hooks to add.

If anyone wants to take a shot at finishing it, do so with my blessing. Otherwise I'll be back to look at it around August,