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Title: BUGS 1.27
Post by: necno on October 16, 2009, 07:47:56 PM
Know bugs (debugging the new item management took a long time, so here is the stuff i didn't get around to doing). Next version other then trying to get the new scripts done, will be focused on fixing these.

game sometimes freezes when taking money from girls

The crash when dealing with a beaten rival still happens.

-100% chance trying to brand a girl with the merciless trait.
-Very small chance when accessing the slave market regardless of the files being formatted correctly.
-Small chance on defeated rival regardless of choice.
-100% chance if deadbeat customer and defeated rival on same turn

 - Also, construct girls seems to get a major happiness loss when working in the brothel.  Even High Class accomidation doesn't completely negate it.

 - Another bug
Astoreth (and mostlikely Etna) as named Catacomb girls:
Will, when starting to work, not give any of their earnings to you.
I let the % - cut be on 60%, Astoreth kept all and I got 0.

 - when a girl is doing training, and there's no girl adjacent to her it appears as 'she trained by herself' even if there's other girl also in training. Only when there's another adjacent girl who is training does it appear 'she trains with X girls'.

 - I guess this isn't really a bug, but it doesn't help either. On transfer screen girls are represented by their "archetype" name, not their actual in game name. So we get 2-3 Demon G2s, 2-3 ArinKoohGirls and so on... It doesn't really help with organization.

 - Trying to 'Take' back a Haircomb from a girl that has both the regular Haircomb and the Golden Haircomb equipped crashes the game.

 - I've had several instances where a pregnant character can get pregnant again with the player's child.

 - I had another crash which happened when I bought a new brothel after getting a mission to do so, therefore completing the mission. The crash wasn't consistent and seemed to be something like 50/50 odds of it going through successfully.
I meant to keep a copy of the save but I messed up and overwrote it, sorry.

 - Girls don't automatically equip Armbands or Armor they buy themselves.

 - Is anyone else having a problem with the Matron in 1.26?  She is taking girls off duty properly almost all the time (I think I had 1 or 2 where she didn't, but since I noticed it after reloading a save, it might have been a save issue), but she isn't putting any of the girls back on duty when they have fully rested. The matron did put them back on duty (at least for me) in 1.25.  I played through the entire game without having to check every single turn to see who is tired and who needs to go back to duty - it was awesome.  With 1.26, I only get half the goodness.

 - Changing the subject: I just found a Virgin MILF in my dungeon. On the bright side, I don't think the religious right are going to like us anyway...

 - Girls who are born and come of age in the same turn get the same name and are the same "Random" type.

 - This isn't really a bug, but does anyone else think it's weird to have girls with 3 or 4 kids before they turn 19?

-  One more thought:  perhaps there should be a trait or something for the "born" girls, so that they're easily identifiable?  And perhaps another one for the ones that have the PC as a father?

- make girls buy from their own market (ie not from the players market)

- I've never noticed a brothel's popularity really increase

- I think there's an exploit with items that raise beauty. Give her two items and cycle between them four or five times on the inventory screen. She seems to get the bonus, but not have it removed again, so you can quickly crank anyone up to 100% looks.

- Also, just had a weird one: bough a new brothel and it gave me a new game. So I quit that, and it went back to the old game screen, although with new game data. So I reloaded and it crashes (no surprise by this time).

- Now, I found out if you let one of the girls die in your dungeon the corpse will be removed at the next day. No Problem with that, but if shes allready dead you can still torture and/or talk or even rape her. It's not really a bug, but I think you should change this in some way ;-)

- I assume the cropped-at-the-neck shot of the girl with her shirt almost falling off is a place holder for girls that don't have a profile pic? Anyway, if you find a girl like that and choose "gallery" it hangs the game. I appreciate this is a problem with the girl mod [1] but the game re3ally ought to be robust enough that errors in mod files can't crash the game itself. [1] In this case Sophita Alexandra - can't remember who's pack she came from, sorry. [2]
[2] Looked it up: EEpack2. Not sure why it happens, since the preview pics are actually there. Haven't looked much deeper than that...

- unhappyness->unhappiness

- Make Custom girls appear more before randomized girls in the catacombs

- make "Incorporeal" girls infertile.

- I think the code that boosts the price for groups is still buggy, sometimes I get groups at the normal price and sometimes at the increased price. I've also noticed that in a shift with an under-billed group session there was a monsters and animals session with an increased price.

- I once set the chance at 51 with a pool of 10,000 and went to -68,000 the next day (where it stayed until I payed it back).  Until I payed it back, I would randomly lose when going to the next day, even if my net cash - gambling debt was less than 5,000.

 - pregnant images may not be showing up
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: necno on October 16, 2009, 07:58:16 PM
Also, i just had a bug where apparently it was trying to draw a girl image on the girl management screen that had been already released and not set to null. this is weird cause I'm quite religious about setting things to null. But it is probably the cause of some of the random crashes.... i suspect crashes when entering any screen may be related and think possible any screen that "remembers" your last selection has this problem.

Can anyone confirm that the crash when entering certain screens only occurs on screens that remember your last selection... cause that means its easy to fix.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: jacq2e on October 16, 2009, 08:42:19 PM
Well, the market look better, but every time I try to buy an item, for the player or a girl, the game crash.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: zodiac44 on October 16, 2009, 08:48:30 PM
I'm not exactly certain this is what you are talking about, but when you start a new game, your background is blank.  If you quit a game and start a new game without restarting the whole program, the brothel image is in the background when it would normally be blank.  If you quit from anywhere but the starting brothel in your first game before starting a new one, the game crashes.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: necno on October 16, 2009, 10:23:23 PM
a new quickfix version should be up latter today
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Fstop on October 16, 2009, 11:18:15 PM
might be a stupid question but where do I DL new version cant seem to find it ='(

edit:ok forget it had the "feedback" tab minimized ='(
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 16, 2009, 11:41:39 PM
The main brothel screen still says 'days' instead of 'weeks'.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: goofydude on October 17, 2009, 12:20:06 AM
My Game crashes whenever I buy something from the store.

(Click item I want to buy then click arrow pointing left towards my name).

It doesn't matter what im trying to buy either.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: necno on October 17, 2009, 02:40:07 AM
Ok, A hot-fix version is uploaded, just re-download the 1.27 patch to fix problems with the item management/shop screen. Sorry about that, guess i should have tested a bit more.

It still counts the days that go by and show on the brothel managemetn screen, but you will notice it goes up by 7 rather then 1.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: DocClox on October 17, 2009, 05:37:05 AM
Girls don't appear to have inventories. Give them a gift, it vanishes.

Go back, and the items are there, but if I try and use some perfume or a bag of sweets, it crashes again.

[edit]

Tried it again, and it worked as expected. Odd...

[edit edit]

using a bag of sweets still crashes the game however.

[edit]

Addiction cures crash the game as well. I am going to have a house full of sad addicts :(

[edit]

... and another crash when when hitting "next day" with no apparent cause.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: trex on October 17, 2009, 10:27:46 AM
How does the update impact on saves?

With the girlpacks, quite a few girls have cut off heads in their profiles, and if you hit the gallery button -> Freeze. (1.26, Raven, Soire (sp))

Girls that run away in dungeons also have issues. Mainly, they duplicate, and if you use the next, prev button cycler, you jump to those girls in the brothel.

I've also seen the entire dungeon of girls vanish if I try the same option (take gold, brand slave) that made the original girl run away on the exact duplicate. (miku and some customs do this, I think miku is a standard though?)

These issues were on 1.26.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: DocClox on October 17, 2009, 11:27:58 AM
If a girl puts up a fight, you can't take her gold away. I've damn near killed Jessica Albert, twice, trying to confiscate her cash.

The message says "she puts up a fight, but you take her gold anyway". When the dust clears, however, she still has the loot.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 17, 2009, 12:58:42 PM
Not encountering the same inventory bugs DocClox ran into.  Bought a bunch of different items, gave them as gifts and equiped/used them.  Worked as intended.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: DocClox on October 17, 2009, 01:33:18 PM
mmm... tried with a bag of sweets, no problem. Repeated with cheap chocolates and BOOM.

It may be an intermittent, or it may be just me. No add-ons other than my Steampunk UI in this one. Could be  the UI, I suppose. Or it could be wine. Let's try this under vbox...

nope - "unhandled just in time error..." under XP.  That using the bag of sweets, too, so it's not the item.  I'll try with a pristine WM and see if I can narrow it down to my UI addon.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 17, 2009, 06:32:45 PM
Minor typo, but when a gang is training or recruiting thier mission is listed as blank. EDIT: Only when you first set it.  Came back the next day and it's there.

More annoying issue, age restrictions for random girls are not being used.  I made a random character that is clearly older, and set her age limit to be 28-40 but she comes up as an 18 year with lolita at times.  Same goes for the reverse (loli looking random girls being generated at age 28...with the lolita trait since I set the profile to give it at 100% as I intended age to be fixed at 18.)

Also, the 1.24 changelog states the minimum age got lowered to 17.  It still seems like 18 is the lowest value being used, at least for random generation.

Lastly, I can confirm the game is randomly crashing when hitting 'next week'.

EDIT: Found out the problem DocClox is having.  Consumable items don't disappear right away when used.  If you try to interact with the item again, it will crash (since it doesn't exist).  Once you use a consumable item, DON'T TRY TO DO ANYTHING MORE WITH IT.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Madmachine on October 17, 2009, 07:10:18 PM
If seems with my game (using 1.27 and 1.27b, fresh installs), that when the time in my game enters the fourth month, the game freezes hard and I have to crash it out.  I am not sure if this is an envent issue or something else, but it always seems to happen at just that time.  I hit the next week button and then I get a loading icon, before being told the program is not responding.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: DocClox on October 17, 2009, 07:17:43 PM
Ah! That would make sense.

So, the question is "are the items really being used?" I'm getting something like +2 happiness for cheap chocs, as opposed to the +20/+25 I was expecting.

Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: necno on October 17, 2009, 07:55:38 PM
hmmm, so to fix that all i need to do is update the display. silly bug on my part.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 17, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
Items effects are working as intended.  You might want to check your items file and see if anything got changed there.  Although misc items don't seem to be UNequippable anymore, though that may be intended since there's really no reason to. 
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Kalebon on October 17, 2009, 10:57:21 PM
current update I have is current (1.27b). I am having an issue where it is locking up when I hit next day.

on what I did to cause this: started a new game, save, went to shop to pick up an item, save, slave market (pick up 2~3 slaves) save, wander town, save, if girl picked up visit dungeon, use girl management, save, next day, lock up, profanity (from me), shutdown program, restart, load, next day, lock up again.

update: did a install 1.27 and  1.27b, the same result on both for me so far.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Bloodly on October 18, 2009, 01:20:00 AM
Be wary of clicking too fast through 'Next Week'; it causes hang-ups.

Seems the game does not like mass training of girls....which is unfortunate, given that mass training is the only way to go thanks to the way the training system works.  It seems to especially object at high skill/con levels.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: zodiac44 on October 18, 2009, 01:49:51 AM
I don't know if this is a bug or if it was intentional, but free girls receive a much higher price for their services than slave girls.  The price for a slave girl looks to be about 60% of the price of a free girl, which would make the house take for slaves and free girls equal.  However, since we can now adjust the house take for free girls, we can make substantially more money with them than with slaves - which makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: LordJerle on October 18, 2009, 02:27:00 AM
Just wondering, have you tracked down the source of the rival crash bug yet?
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: ker on October 18, 2009, 12:56:01 PM
Be wary of clicking too fast through 'Next Week'; it causes hang-ups.

Seems the game does not like mass training of girls....which is unfortunate, given that mass training is the only way to go thanks to the way the training system works.  It seems to especially object at high skill/con levels.

I seem to be having the same issues.. If I have more than 4 girls or so in training, the game freezes when I press next week.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: fg109 on October 18, 2009, 12:58:43 PM
This probably has something to do with your reply in the other bug thread:
Well, there is a new bug thread for the new version. there is a lot i didn't fix but I'm focused on those fixes for next version.

A side note is that my breaking down of the function used for updating girls (its all one function, jobs and all) is coming along nicely.

Also, i just had a bug where apparently it was trying to draw a girl image on the girl management screen that had been already released and not set to null. this is weird cause I'm quite religious about setting things to null. But it is probably the cause of some of the random crashes.... i suspect crashes when entering any screen may be related and think possible any screen that "remembers" your last selection has this problem.

When you access girl's details in either the girl management screen or dungeon, then you press quit later (saving before is optional) and reload the game, it will crash when you try to access the girl management screen or girl's details in the dungeon.

The game also crashes if you check the slave market, reload, and try to check the slave market again.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Kalebon on October 18, 2009, 05:32:44 PM
Be wary of clicking too fast through 'Next Week'; it causes hang-ups.

Seems the game does not like mass training of girls....which is unfortunate, given that mass training is the only way to go thanks to the way the training system works.  It seems to especially object at high skill/con levels.

I seem to be having the same issues.. If I have more than 4 girls or so in training, the game freezes when I press next week.

would be nice to be able to go into the next day/week. but like I said earlier I lock up when I try every time.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 18, 2009, 05:42:23 PM
I found a workaround for the crash on 'next week'.  Move a girl to another brothel or into the dungeon (selling a girl off also works, but is obviously not recommended).  It should allow you to pass the turn now.  Oddly enough, you can move the girl back next turn and the crash won't happen.  Once this crash is in place, this seems to be the ONLY remedy.  It doesn't matter how many times you retry 'next week', it will crash until you move a girl.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Kalebon on October 18, 2009, 06:38:40 PM
I found a workaround for the crash on 'next week'.  Move a girl to another brothel or into the dungeon (selling a girl off also works, but is obviously not recommended).  It should allow you to pass the turn now.  Oddly enough, you can move the girl back next turn and the crash won't happen.  Once this crash is in place, this seems to be the ONLY remedy.  It doesn't matter how many times you retry 'next week', it will crash until you move a girl.

Did that hit the button for the next week and the game locked up when I put the girls back in and hit next week. I did not have this when it was calculating to the next day.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Kalebon on October 18, 2009, 07:37:06 PM
I found a workaround for the crash on 'next week'.  Move a girl to another brothel or into the dungeon (selling a girl off also works, but is obviously not recommended).  It should allow you to pass the turn now.  Oddly enough, you can move the girl back next turn and the crash won't happen.  Once this crash is in place, this seems to be the ONLY remedy.  It doesn't matter how many times you retry 'next week', it will crash until you move a girl.

Did that hit the button for the next week and the game locked up when I put the girls back in and hit next week. I did not have this when it was calculating to the next day.

Did change the actions for everyone in the brother (them all off training) seems the crash happens with the training with 3 girls for some reason.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 18, 2009, 10:11:39 PM
I'm pretty sure the girl I moved was doing training too, so that might be the real fix.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: SMGah on October 18, 2009, 10:18:58 PM
Works fine untill i add any custom girl to the game,  (Seems to work fine untill i -) Use the "change job" command and put any of the girls on "Freetime" - End turn it and it crashs,   but what i find strange that if i use the "Change all Jobs" command and put them all on Freetime - it doesnt crash when ending turn.
 
Edit: Skip that,  it still crashs when i remove all the new girls aswell when changeing girls to freetime
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Bloodly on October 18, 2009, 11:43:11 PM
Update on the 'training' issue-Seems the game in fact hates double training shifts.  Single seems fine.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 19, 2009, 12:05:54 AM
Minor bug: Now that daughters inherit some of their mother's traits, there's a chance the 'MILF' trait can get passed on.  Needless to say that one doesn't make a lot of sense.  Severe psychological traits and injuries can get passed on too, such as Mind Fucked, Broken Will, One Eye etc.  While these could techincally be explained, it's still rather undesirable.

Another bug with daughters: If multiple daughters come of age on the same day, they get generated with the same name, same stats, and same traits.  The only thing that differs is the inherited traits.  I got three daughters named 'Sakie' on the same day.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Kalebon on October 19, 2009, 12:13:20 AM
Update on the 'training' issue-Seems the game in fact hates double training shifts.  Single seems fine.

did not work that way for me was doing single training sessions.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: LordShame on October 19, 2009, 01:11:01 AM
Bug with insemination:
I've seen two sterile girls get inseminated. They both had the "anti-preg" box unchecked, so that might have something to do with it. I haven't seen them get "regular" pregnant though.

Bugs with captured mothers:
When you capture a deadbeat customer's wife and daughters, the wife (I noticed you can tell who she is because she's much older than the daughters, nice touch BTW) doesn't have the MILF trait. I think I might have seen one who was a virgin, but I'm not sure. I'll keep an eye out for that one.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: letmein on October 19, 2009, 01:19:38 AM
Sterile girls getting insemenated is by design, I believe...  I know that anti-preg drugs don't work, anyway.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Rose on October 19, 2009, 08:42:05 AM
Bug with insemination:
I've seen two sterile girls get inseminated. They both had the "anti-preg" box unchecked, so that might have something to do with it. I haven't seen them get "regular" pregnant though.

This is a feature, not a bug. I'm guessing the beasts aren't actually impregnating the girls, just using their wombs as hosts for the developing beast-spawn.

Bugs with captured mothers:
When you capture a deadbeat customer's wife and daughters, the wife (I noticed you can tell who she is because she's much older than the daughters, nice touch BTW) doesn't have the MILF trait. I think I might have seen one who was a virgin, but I'm not sure. I'll keep an eye out for that one.

Yeah, this one is pretty weird... Besides, I think some religious groups might be offended if you enslave a virgin mother and put her to work in a brothel... ^_^;
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: NuMysterio on October 19, 2009, 10:38:26 AM
Bugs with captured mothers:
When you capture a deadbeat customer's wife and daughters, the wife (I noticed you can tell who she is because she's much older than the daughters, nice touch BTW) doesn't have the MILF trait. I think I might have seen one who was a virgin, but I'm not sure. I'll keep an eye out for that one.

Not all moms are MILFs, so I can excuse that.  I think the code was changed previously to remove the virgin trait from mothers, so it shouldn't come up at all.  Odd if it did.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Count Zero on October 19, 2009, 02:52:41 PM

 - when a girl is doing training, and there's no girl adjacent to her it appears as 'she trained by herself' even if there's other girl also in training. Only when there's another adjacent girl who is training does it appear 'she trains with X girls'.


Could it be that this bug is now the cause for crashes?
The crashes with next week when girls are on training always happened for me when one of the girls had no other training girl adjacent. Changing her job to anything else then training or changing one adjacent girl to training helped me to avoid the crash. Changing jobs of the other girls on training had no influence on the bug, it still crashes at the end of the turn.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Mirroar on October 19, 2009, 03:37:50 PM
First of all, hi everybody ;)

I can also confirm that having a mix of girls training and on freetime on the same shift crashes the game. All training or none training seem to be fine, so I tend to set even my tired girls to train currently.

Another oddity I noticed: In my last game, when I had my gangs go into the catacombs, I was getting named girls all the time whenever they found a girl (Morrigan, Etna, Carrera, etc.). In my current game I only seem to get random girls. I would guess this is an error caused by a random number generator not being initialized properly (always giving the same result when deciding wether to give the player a random girl or a named one)
I'll try testing this a bit more, if I find a way to.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: sgb on October 19, 2009, 03:45:10 PM
I've noticed the 'random monster girls only' thing too.  Out of 6 captured girls so far in my current game, none have been unique; and I've made several more 'catacombs only girls', so the odds should be in favour of a unique one.  Will try setting all my gangs to search catacombs and keep reloading later tonight to confirm.

EDIT: Issue confirmed.  Tried and reloaded 10 times with five fully trained gangs.  No unique girls.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: LordShame on October 19, 2009, 06:37:10 PM
Okay, I get the meaning of insemination now. I was just confused by the usage of the word, because it literally means "insertion of semen"; technically, inseminating a sterile female isn't supposed to do anything. However, I understand that using the words "gestational surrogacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestational_carrier#Terminology)" might be just a little too technical. ;)
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Mirroar on October 19, 2009, 09:56:40 PM
Something else I noticed: I just went through my girls to see which were drug addicted and found one. So I went to the inventory management and gave her a Cure for Shroud addiction. then I selected it in her inventory and clicked the "Equip/Use" Button. the item did not vanish from her inventory and the "Unequip" Button lit up, suggesting the game tried to equip the item instead of use it. I clickt the unequip-button, which made the equip-button light p again. Clicked that and the game crashed.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Kalebon on October 19, 2009, 10:16:48 PM
Something else I noticed: I just went through my girls to see which were drug addicted and found one. So I went to the inventory management and gave her a Cure for Shroud addiction. then I selected it in her inventory and clicked the "Equip/Use" Button. the item did not vanish from her inventory and the "Unequip" Button lit up, suggesting the game tried to equip the item instead of use it. I clickt the unequip-button, which made the equip-button light p again. Clicked that and the game crashed.

when consumables are used they do not initially vanish it seems, moving to another girl and back corrects the display error.
Title: Re: BUGS 1.27
Post by: Sigfried666 on October 24, 2009, 07:57:00 AM
Playing 1.27 now. I got the "next day" freeze problem. Had only one girl training. Still, it workend when I took her off training.

Edit:
Seems to freeze whenerver I put any girl on training. Seems I will have to go on withou training.