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Game Discussion => General Discussion & Download => Topic started by: SCO on April 01, 2010, 01:28:46 PM

Title: New and would like some help.
Post by: SCO on April 01, 2010, 01:28:46 PM
First off, I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this.  If it's not, I apologize and ask that one of the mods move it ASAP. 
 
Okay, so I downloaded this a few days ago and I've been downloading all sorts of packs.  I play it on a different computer, so I can't tell you everything about it off the top o my head.  Some of the packs I've been downloading have missing image files for a few girls, and it crashes the game if I do anything with them that involves anything other than the default profile image.  This is problem number one.
 
The second problem I have is with the Editor (The one that Solo made, version 0.66).  I can't update any girls, randoms, or items from the editor.  I can edit them in the config files, but I keep getting an error message, which I will post as soon as I can.
 
Finally, for the good news:  I love this program.  It's simple, I love that it's open sourced so I can go in and edit it to make it as hard or easy as I'm feeling at the moment, and I can help develop the game, because I've been learning previously to code and script in C and in XML lately, so I'm understanding all sorts of new things. 
 
I do have a request from those of you guys who make all of these packs.  I'd like to see two things.  The first is more Western inspired girls.  I've seen lately a few Teen Titans and Kim Possible, but I'd love to see a lot more.  All of these anime girls are just over loading me.  The second is I'd love to see more items.  I know LS started it, but the game needs more and better items.  I do plan on doing such once I figure out why the editor isn't working.
 
 
Otherwise, thanks for making such a fun little sim!
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: delta224 on April 01, 2010, 06:32:14 PM
What version are you using.  It should not crash if you use 1.29.4.6 version, the current version of the trunk should crash though.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: zodiac44 on April 01, 2010, 10:57:02 PM
Do the girls' profile pictures show up in game, or do you get a generic pic for each one?
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: Midnight_Amratha on April 02, 2010, 11:49:33 PM
well the overload of anime girls are understandable as the game started off as an anime game but thankfully you are free to edit other pictures and use those. with the proviso that you don't break any local laws of course. if you make packages with girls try to keep them in the same format as the other girls, that is: jpg and with the names of the various picture types so the program won't crash, capital letters and all. other than that, let your imagination be the limit.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: Wispowill on April 03, 2010, 01:34:44 AM
Anime inspired girls? Overload? Maybe I've been mistaken, but my impression has been that the majority of girls have been from video games. Video games originating from Japan, true, but that still is not the same as anime. I think that if you'd count the Fire Emblem, Dead or Alive, RPG, RPG, RPG, Touhou, characters that they'd far outweigh the actual anime stuff. Not being a video game player, I'd personally like to see ONLY anime girls, or an option to that effect, but an under no delusion that that will ever happen.
 
Even aside from the fact that quite a few English people who watch anime are primarily gamers, with anime as a sidedish, there is also a matter of pictures quantities. Most erotic art for anime appears shortly after airing and then some after the DVDs are released. After a few years most pictures will gradually disappear unless a series was fairly popular to start with. Ongoing series like Naruto and One Piece have a better chance because of their length, but take something like Dual Parallel Trouble or  Banner of the Stars and you'll find hardly anything. The latter two were pretty popular when they first aired, but haven't maintained that popularity, so whatever erotic art there was previously isn't available anymore.
 
All in all, each to their own I guess. Although I admit having difficulty understanding someone wanting porn based off something as badly drawn as the typical Western cartoon, that's still your right.
 
 
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: Mehzerz on April 03, 2010, 02:08:04 AM
I'd personally like to see ONLY anime girls, or an option to that effect, but an under no delusion that that will ever happen.


Well the great thing about WM is that you can have whoever you want in your game. No one is forcing you to use specific girls, if you want girls only from anime use girls only from anime. If there's pictures of it naked it'll work for WM.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: DocClox on April 03, 2010, 05:30:02 AM
Maybe I've been mistaken, but my impression has been that the majority of girls have been from video games. Video games originating from Japan, true, but that still is not the same as anime.

Well, personally, I don't play console games and I don't watch much anime. Consequently, just about all the girls I've seen in the game, either I never heard of them, or else i only know them because they've been the subject of a dozen fan made h-games. I don't think that detracts from the game in any way.

I love that it's open sourced

As a long time Linux user, I'm having difficulty reconciling this statement with your chosen user name  :-\
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: SCO on April 03, 2010, 03:01:03 PM
Hey guys.  Time to reply:
 
I've figured out the image crashing bit.  I would get default profile image, and anything else would freeze and then crash the game.  I just had to get proper image and folder names for those girls. 
 
I'm using the latest download.  Forgot to get the error report from the editor.  It isn't bothering me much now that I've learned how to edit the .girls, .girlsx, .rgirls, and the .rgirlsx files.  fairly easy once you understand the language.  However, I've been try to write an .itemsx file to expand, but everything I write isn't coming up in the list.  I'm going to play around with it some more to see if I can get it to work.
 
As for the overload line, it was more of an offhanded remark.  A hundred and thirty plus girls, all from video games and anime?  It would be hard to not want a little variety, at least for me.  Also, it has occurred to me just recently, I'm suprised that no one has submitted a pack for a live model. 
 
 
Also, Doc, SCO is an acronym for something totally non-computer related, although knowing what little I do about Linux (having been a lifelong PC user) I can understand your problems.  And that was damn funny.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: zodiac44 on April 03, 2010, 03:49:45 PM
Try updating your .net framework, the editor requires a certain version or newer (don't know which one), so that might be causing your problems.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: sgb on April 03, 2010, 03:51:50 PM
Nobody's done any live models because live models and Japanese anime styled artwork don't mix at all.  Western animation and art style is equally hated, not because people hate western animation, but because the styles are just too different.

If you wanted live models, you'd pretty much have to make enough characters to run the game entirely with just live models.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: exodia91 on April 03, 2010, 06:42:13 PM
It just Happens that all the people asking for live models and western-style girls are too lazy to make them themselves. Also, its not that western style is different, its just that, for me, any porn made with it looks utterly disgusting. Badly proportioned pseudo-humanoids does not hot porn make. Unless you're living out your childhood fantasy of banging Lisa Simpson. In which case stay far away from me. Urk.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: zodiac44 on April 03, 2010, 08:48:19 PM
Badly proportioned pseudo-humanoids does not hot porn make.

And anime-style pseudo-humanoids are well-proportioned?  Think again: http://shechive.com/2009/11/18/what-if-japanese-cartoons/ (http://shechive.com/2009/11/18/what-if-japanese-cartoons/).  Super creepy.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: Graen on April 03, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
And anime-style pseudo-humanoids are well-proportioned?  Think again: http://shechive.com/2009/11/18/what-if-japanese-cartoons/ (http://shechive.com/2009/11/18/what-if-japanese-cartoons/).  Super creepy.
That's nothing!

http://thenoisingmachine.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/the-skeletons-of-cartoon-characters/

 :D
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: Mehzerz on April 04, 2010, 03:20:40 AM
Hahaha. Those skeletons were actually pretty cool. Western art or Asian art, doesn't really matter. I'm tellin' you whatever you want to use for pictures you can. No one is restricted as far as who they want in their brothel, and as far as I'm concerned anyone who wants to do western art girl packs is more than welcome. I'd rather have more choices than fewer choices. They'll of course be added to the list as well.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: SCO on April 04, 2010, 08:43:20 PM
I realized a little later in the day that live models would also be hard as hell to pack.  You'd have to do a very non-specific set, and all of them would probably have to be random girls, because finding good pictures of a model in even a small selection of the picture options would be hard.
 
 
And thanks for the info about the .net framework.  I'll check it first chance I get.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: LordJerle on April 05, 2010, 02:03:01 PM
Well they're kind of hard to rip, but if you go to the moonlight bunny ranch site and check out their girl selection, they've got a bunch of pictures in all sorts of fetish categories, many of them nude, and others non nude.  I managed to rip a bunch of them via google image search, but have yet to make a decent compilation.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: Solo761 on April 05, 2010, 07:23:37 PM
I realized a little later in the day that live models would also be hard as hell to pack.  You'd have to do a very non-specific set, and all of them would probably have to be random girls, because finding good pictures of a model in even a small selection of the picture options would be hard.
 
 
And thanks for the info about the .net framework.  I'll check it first chance I get.

Editor requires .net framework 3.5. If you have windows XP or newer this is no problem, you can DL installer for XP, and it comes with Win7 (not sure about vista, it may only have 3.0). You can try this

http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=234.msg4215#msg4215 (http://pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=234.msg4215#msg4215)

That's "version" for Win2k. Newest .net for Win2k is 2.0SP1 so I included needed files from v3.5 with this one and it seems to work. You can try it and see if this fixes it (if you don't want to DL and install 3.5, this one is smaller if nothing else). Also, if there's any new editor version it should work to just overwrite the one in this Win2k version. Exe is the same, only thing that's extra are those few v3.5 files.


On the topic of real or western toon girls. I made one 3D char (http://www.mediafire.com/?1uu0zmm3joi) with poser, her's proportions are mostly realistic (boobs might not be :) ) but it wasn't really a success, being that all girls at that time (and still are) were anime style. Although agony of making .girl file manually motivated me to cobble up the editor :).
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: SCO on April 05, 2010, 11:46:18 PM
Yeah, I got that 3d girl.  Not bad stuff there.  Could prolly find more of those out there and add them.  They would be a lot easier to do than most live or western style girls.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: sgb on April 06, 2010, 10:39:23 PM
It just Happens that all the people asking for live models and western-style girls are too lazy to make them themselves. Also, its not that western style is different, its just that, for me, any porn made with it looks utterly disgusting. Badly proportioned pseudo-humanoids does not hot porn make. Unless you're living out your childhood fantasy of banging Lisa Simpson. In which case stay far away from me  Urk.
No arguement from me that most Western animation porn is awful.  But again, it's more because of the style not so much the characters.  I've seen Western characters drawn by Japanese artists look amazing.  The problem is most Western artists try to stay in style, which as you say generally turns out repulsive.
Title: Re: New and would like some help.
Post by: Solo761 on April 08, 2010, 02:45:44 PM
Yeah, I got that 3d girl.  Not bad stuff there.  Could prolly find more of those out there and add them.  They would be a lot easier to do than most live or western style girls.

Don't know about finding them, sure, you can find 3D (or better said "3D") but finding enough pictures of same model is probably impossible. Those pics were made by me just for WM with Poser. If you want to try your hand you can download Daz Studio, it's free and comes with few models.