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Game Discussion => General Discussion & Download => Topic started by: LordJerle on August 12, 2010, 01:54:04 PM
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What's you're top 3 favorite anime series? Here's mine:
1) Elfen Lied- Just cuz... it's the shit.
2) Dragonball Z- It gets a bad rap cuz it's what made anime popular in the states for a lot of people, but, I'm one of the people who REALLY started watching anime because of it, so :P
3) Bleach- I'm more of a Bleach manga reader now, but up until the soul society arc ended, it was just awesome.
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- FLCL - Only series I can watch from start to finish in one sitting and get the same enjoyment from it now as I did when I first saw it.
- Ghost in the Shell. Been a huge fan since the original GitS movie was released on VHS (remember that?) the TV show was just an ultimate Fangasm for me.
- Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi. Ok, yeah I'm a huge Gainax fan. This series makes me laugh hysterically every time I see it. It's probably because "Alien Frieza" never gets old.
(http://img151.imagevenue.com/loc25/th_36873_Alien_Frieza_122_25lo.jpg) (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_36873_Alien_Frieza_122_25lo.jpg) And that's the sorta insanity this show is filled with.
Honorary mention goes to Cowboy Beebop and Samurai Champloo. For proving that Anime isn't just about 12 year old panty shots.
To Excell Saga and Azumanga Daioh for being funny.
And to Bleach and Melancholy of Harui Suzumiya. Who's Creators seem to love to troll their fanbase for... shiggles I guess.
You pretty much summed up my feelings on Bleach LordJ.
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1. Tenchi Series all(muyo, Tokyo, universe, ryoki, GXP)
2. Slayers
3. Gravion
And Freiza is a F.A.G., a freaky alien genotype
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1. Trigun
2. Cowboy Bebop
3. Dunno... Love Hina maybe?
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- One Piece <- What should i say? ... Its Just Awesome ^^
- GitS <- had the VHS from the "Videothek" with "King of my Castle" befor the film ^^ whatched it nore then 20 times... just to get the who is who... after that i'd try to get the story XD
- Trigun ... <- ten years back i saw it first with Jap Dubbed and Gersubbed...
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My top 3
1. Neon Genesis Evangelion
2. Shakugan no Shana
3. Last Exile
I had to pick between Naruto and Last Exile
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1. Serial Experements Lain
2. Yu Yu Hakasho
3. FLCL
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1 Mai Hime
2 Bleach
3 Naruto Shipuden (Japanese with English Subtitles, not American Edits with English Dubs)
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Black Lagoon
Big Windup
Baccano
Honestly, not sure what order they should be in. Kind of wanted to throw Outlaw Star in there too, mainly for the nostalgia factor since it was my first real anime. Unless you count Digimon, which I don't.
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Cowboy Bebop
Black Lagoon
Samurai Champloo
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Code Geass
Death note
Naruto
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Rurouni Kenshin OVA (not manga though, particularly; also known as Samurai X)
Vampire Hunter D (along with the later sequel)
For #3... hmm, dunno offhand, maybe something by Studio Ghibli
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Its been a while since I watched anime aside from what shows up on Adult Swim.
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I think I'll go with -
Heat Guy J
Spiral
Samurai Champloo
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For the lolz.
1. Tenma Teppa Gurren Laugen. Yes it's horribly over the top, but that's what makes it awesome. For the love of God though, don't watch the dub.
2. Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni (When they Cry). What can I say, I love freaky horror mystery stuff.
3. Code Geass. 30 Zanatos pileup on crack.
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1. Excel Saga
2. When they Cry
3. Sayonara, Zetsubo-Sensei
There's really surprising diversity here quick glance indicate Black Lagoon to be the only top 3 match.
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FLCL, Cowboy Bebop and that's probably it. Been meaning to watch Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi for a while now, totally forgot about it.
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MSAA pokes serious fun at the entertainment industry in general. Usually taking cliches to their extreme as a joke, it's genuinely funny. I recomend either the Dub or the sub. (whichever you find.) since their both equally funny. Though the "Hey, fucking cowboy and fucking cowgirl, buy a fucking hot dog!" speech is funnier in the dub.
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Seriously?! No one's mentioned Ninja Scroll?? No love for Jubei.
1. Ninja Scroll. (This was the anime that got me into anime)
2. Serial Experiments Lain. (Really liked the first three DVD's. But was disappointed in the last DVD and ending.)
3. I have about a ten way tie for third place. But i'll give an honorable mention to Escaflowne (Subbed only. The Dubbed makes me want to claw my face off). The movie is probably better than the series. But i liked both.
The thing that attracts me the most to anime. Is when the creators pull factual material into the stories. I love the attention to detail. A good example is with Samurai Champloo. The creators studied up on Musashi Miyamoto and Yagyu Munenori. Both were legendary swordsman.
Mugen is modeled after Musashi. If you watch closely to the fight scenes, Mugen always holds his sword with one hand and he always attacks first. This is the fighting style Musashi Miyamoto is most famous for.
Gin is modeled after Yagyu Munenori. Gin never attacks first. He always waits for his opponent to attack him. (The one exception to this, may be in Gin's last fight scene, don't remember off hand). Waiting for your opponent is called the 'perfect defense' made famous by Yagyu Munenori.
And that!!... is my pretentious history lesson for the day! ;D
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I'd think I'd have to have watched Ninja Scroll to have mentioned it.
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Ninja scroll is one of the first animes to really spark American interest in the 90s. That along with Ghost in the Shell and Akira. Ninja Scroll did terribly in Japan, but it blew up in America. It seems the Japanese preferred (Perhaps they still do) the bright colors, happiness, friendship conquers all stuff instead of the dark gritty more serious stuff that Americans were more interested in. (Hellsing didn't do super well either, but became a huge hit in America)
So with that said, Ninja scroll was one of the first animes I actually saw, and again, Akira and Ghost in the Shell were probably the first three I've seen. They're all really good, but I wouldn't call them my top favorites... though Akira and Ghost in the Shell definitely seem to have their cult followings.
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You can count me a card carrying member of the Akira GitS Cult. :D
And I think Ninja Scroll did so well because it filled a void that was left behind by Fist of the North Star. It was a violently over the top animated movie. And there was a market for that. After all, there was a certain novelty to "Violent Cartoons" back in the early 90's. Which was coming off the era of GI Joe and 5 minute long gun battles where nobody ever hit anything with a gun ever. I think the only character to ever be shot and killed(later put into a coma) was duke... and he was shot by a god damn snake.
So yeah. The scene in the beginning of Akira, where the revolutionary is gunned down by like 15 gunmen, seemed to almost poke fun at western animation. (See! When we have 15 guys shoot at someone they hit their target.) Conversely, I watched Akira in Highschool during 2 separate occasions. Both times, there was riotous applause for that scene. Not so much because a nameless schlub was gunned down. But because a ton of bullets just flew and didn't hit air. (Wow, a cartoon character just got shot to shit!) That sorta thing isn't as amazing these days. (if anything, it may turn a few viewers off) but back then, it was like finally taking the kid gloves off .
And the top sellers then where series like Violence Jack, M.D. Geist, Genocyber, Ninja Scroll, Fist of the North Star, Vampire Hunter D, and Akira. Which, with the exception of Akira and maybe Genocyber, isn't a list of stellar movies and series. Hell FotNS is probably MST3k worthy on it's own. So Utterly bad it's hilariously good. But that doesn't make these series any less important to NA fandom. These did something that Speed Racer, Gatchman, Kimba, Astro Boy, Voltron and Even Macross couldn't do. It made North America take notice of Anime.
And I'd even venture a guess that people wouldn't have even bothered to fansub some of the more popular shows coming out of Japan these days, if it wasn't for these series. They created demand for a product that western companies where having a hard time fulfilling. For every animeigo (Bringers of bubblegum crisis and Ah! My Goddess) and Viz (Ranma 1/2) there was a Streamline (Everything after Fist and Akira should have been called Shit Release #X) and USRenditions (You don't know what a bad dub is till you watch the USR Macross 2 dub).
Someone had to fill the void shitty translations and crappy dubbing left. And Fansubbers filled that void. And even though there where fansubbers before that. There just weren't many of them. Anime fandom was more akin to fans of Spanish Novella's today. Just a type of show in a different language that you really didn't watch unless you understood the language. Maybe you had a friend that got you into it when they subtitled it for you. But your friend definitely didn't have a comprehensive list of subtitled work. So fansubbers filled the void and the internet became their medium of choice. (why the hell wouldn't it be?)
TL:DR
Uber violent anime created a market and shitty localization boosted fansubbing to fill that market. So thank Ninja Scroll and U.S.Renditions for the fact that you saw any of these shows in our lists. :D
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Cowboy Bebop
Robotech
Tokyo Godfathers
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ninja scroll i will thank because it was good heck my anime club in high school watched it a few times
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ninja scroll i will thank because it was good heck my anime club in high school watched it a few times
They let you watch that in high school? A girl gets raped in it... AND another girl is fucked. You have a very lenient school.
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And I think Ninja Scroll did so well because it filled a void that was left behind by Fist of the North Star. It was a violently over the top animated movie. And there was a market for that. After all, there was a certain novelty to "Violent Cartoons" back in the early 90's. Which was coming off the era of GI Joe and 5 minute long gun battles where nobody ever hit anything with a gun ever. I think the only character to ever be shot and killed(later put into a coma) was duke... and he was shot by a god damn snake.
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Was Fist of the north star released in the US around that time? Kinda suprising... so what did we all watch in the early 70's and late 80's? I know the guy who voiced Speed Racer brought a lot of japanese animation that did really well in the US. Speed Racer and Astroboy come to mind. I guess Speed Racer was a big one... Gatchaman. Hard to compete with He Man and Thunder Cats right? lololol
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it was an edited version of it you know the kind the you would see on animonday a few years ago
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ugh Hellsing sucked. I really don't get vampire lovers
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See, I like monster story's in general. Vampires are just one sub-genra, and I like stuff like Hellsing, the actual novel of Dracula, Ann Rice's stuff, etc. but I really hate the "glitter vampires" from stuff like Twilight.
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1. Seto no Hanayome
2. Sakigake Otokojuku
3. Excel Saga
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About the Rurouni Kenshin OVA, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG6kfOMp4yg#t=02m44s
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I'm relatively new to anime, so I haven't seen that many series. Anyways, here's my top 3.
1. RahXephon
2. Seirei No Moribito
3. Code Geass
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Was Fist of the north star released in the US around that time? Kinda suprising... so what did we all watch in the early 70's and late 80's? I know the guy who voiced Speed Racer brought a lot of japanese animation that did really well in the US. Speed Racer and Astroboy come to mind. I guess Speed Racer was a big one... Gatchaman. Hard to compete with He Man and Thunder Cats right? lololol
<Warning, Awfully wordy History lesson on the American Anime localization industry. Most of this is from memory since I grew up with this industry. So I might not be 100% accurate. So if anyone has any corrections, feel free to add them.>
Lets see...
1960's we got Astroy Boy, Kimba the White Lion and Gigantor.
1970's we got Battle of the planets | G-force (Gatchaman), and Star Blazers (Spaceship Yamato)
1980's we got Voltron (Beast King GoLion) and Robotech (Macross, Southern Cross and Genesis Climber M.O.S.P.E.A.D.A)
1990's saw a dramatic Increase in the amount of Anime released in the US. The release of Akira (both Manga and Movie) in the US opened the flood gates and created demand for JP animation products. There was more to it. Like the speculator market in the comic industry pumping money into the comic, RPG and Video Game industries. But you can pin down the years 1991-95 as the Genesis of Western interest in Eastern animation. Akira, MD Geist, Project Aiko, Fist of the North Star, Ninja Scroll and even Angel of Darkness where huge sellers in America.
What's Kinda sad however, is the early pioneering companies of Streamline, USRenditions, Central Park Media and Animeigo where all fated to die a slow and meandering death at the hands of the industry they helped to create. (Viz was surprisingly immune. More on that later) Initially, there was more then enough IP to go around. Cheap too. Back then, all you needed was to License the rights to a popular movie or OAV, translate and subtitle it (Streamline kinda skimped on this part), then release this to VHS. (Laser Disc if you where really swanky.) There was little to no production cost unless you dubbed. And streamline had Fist and Akira. They could afford to "splurge" a little. (Streamline dubs do sound like shit though)
But then Japan got greedy. They started charging ridonkulous prices for even crap IP's. Not counting what they where asking for series like Gundam and Macross. (Ever wondered why the original, unedited, unspliced together version of Macross took so god damn long to be released when streamline basically inherited the rights to Robotech from Carl Macek? This is the reason.) So the 4 big companies had few choices.
Animeigo and USRenditions went the rout of dubbing their back catalog instead of acquiring new IP. And the Dubbing was more horid then you would expect. It was like voice over reading instead of voice over acting. And the Macross II dub was particularly lulz worthy. Streamline went the "Just acquire more till it gets better" approach which landed them such "stellar" series as Babel II, and Wicked City. (Never heard of them? You aren't alone.) And CPM pumped money into the JP industry to create new IP. We got Genocyber out of that, but that's pretty much it since they nearly bankrupted themselves.
But while the big 4 where Death rattling around 95-96, two new companies entered the fray. Manga Entertainment and AD Visions took the industry by storm by deciding to take it a step further from "uber violent cartoons" and went the rout of "Uber violent cartoons with sex". (AD Visions more so) Manga started off picking up the same type of crap IP's that Streamline was. But they sold them at a discounted rate. Where as the industry standard was around 30 dollars American per VHS cassette, Manga dropped it down to $9.99. With Series like Violence Jack being their big sellers. Meanwhile, AD Visions sold Porn. (This is back before Hentai even meant porn. :D ) LA Blue Girl and Angel of Darkness being ridiculously popular. ADV managed to cash in on the Newness craze of Hentai that violent Anime had in the early 90's.
And they made money hand over fist. Finally putting the final nails in the coffin for the Big 4 when Manga and ADV acquired the Ghost in the Shell movie and the Evangelion series respectively. With Manga taking it a step further with the release of Ninja Scroll and the Street Fighter Movie. Manga made an ass ton off that last one. Coming off the Shitacular Live action SF movie, Manga released the Dubbed version of the animated SF movie as an "alternative" to crap. Actually having some half way decent dubbing and replacing the soundtrack with various hard rock and metal bands (Korn, KMFDM etc.) the movie went over extremely well. Add to that the fact that the GitS movie was the Highest selling DVD of 97-99(forgot which year it was) Manga was Way on top.
But ADV wasn't far behind. If anything, their rape of Eva fans must have garnered them an ass ton of money. (2 episodes per $30.00 vhs Cassette... fuck you ADV ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐). So I was insanely happy that Manga Landed the EVA movies from them.
Meanwhile, in TV land. Anime was making a comeback onto morning television. The (Surprising) success of Power Rangers paved the way for new IP's to be brought to network television. Heavily edited, laughably dubbed versions of Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball (|Z) made their way into the no-man's land of the 6 in the morning time slot. These shows, arrived and died within a year. And probably would have stayed that way if not for the fact that Cartoon Network needed some fresh material for their channel. This was the time when they showed constant reruns of Scooby Doo, the Flintstones and Bugs Bunny. And when they did go off program, it usually ended up as Space ghost, Galtar and the Golden Lance and Birdman reruns. (couldn't even afford thundercats, lulz.) So picking these shows up cheap from Funimation and DIC seemed like a good deal.
And christ was it ever. Even though CN and Adult Swim have gone on record saying they hate Anime. Neither of them would be anywhere today without it. (Especially AS, which got it's start from combining Space Ghost Coast to Coast with less edited DBZ and Gundum Wing.) DBZ itself funded the acquisition of even more titles on CN's Toonnami block and eventually, more series on Adult swim. Culminating in them finally having a budget to release some original programming. (Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff Girls owe there existance to DBZ... fuckinglulz)
2000's Everyone here should be aware of what the NA Anime localization industry is like now. Some key points however.
- Companies that could fund acquisitions with profit from other industries they where involved with started localizing. This included Bandai and Sony.
- Manga and ADV where|are (ADV still around?) dying the slow meandering death the big 4 died a decade previous. With acquisitions drying up and competition with companies that seemed to have a bottomless pit of money to fund there localization ventures not making their prognoses look good.
- Funimations and (can't believe this) Viz Video(of all fucking people) are currently the top dogs of the industry. Like CPM-Streamline and Manga-ADV before them. They're the big guns that get the big IP.
- Viz was the "Ranma 1/2" company for the longest time. They acquired little of note otherwise and I can't for the life of me figure out how the hell they landed series like Naruto, Bleach and Death Note... They've been around almost as long as Streamline and CPM. By all measures, they should be just as dead. I guess attaching themselves to Shonen Jumps teet for 2 decades must have been a good strategy. :D
- Funimations is to today what Streamline and ADV was to back then. A company that can go fuck themselves. ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐. Though they are getting better.
- Funimations is partly responsible for the Epic Explosion of Fansubbers on the net. There was some real gripes about authenticity to be had for series as far back as Astroboy and reaching a head with Sailor Moon and DBZ. We had no "by way of comparison" in the 60's to 80's unless you actually saw the shows in Japan. Even the massive butcher Jobs GoLion and Macross got ran pretty much under the radar. I mean, back then, how would you know? But the release of movies and OVA's direct to video here in the states gave people a general feeling of "Hey... wait a minute..." when the Standards and Practices Cudgel came down on SM and DBZ. The fact that Funimations kept doing this sorta shit all the way up to One Piece... So people turned to the internet for Authenticity in droves. And the Fansubbers, Who started off just porting shows the Big companies couldn't afford to localize, (See above for the death of the big 4) where more then happy to fansub material as it was being released in Japan.
- Fansubbing caused the Localization industry to cut some serious corners to turn a profit. It was bad enough when they jacked up prices just to cover licensing costs. But when they drop DVD features and Surround sound to keep their bottom line... This is really a leap frog scenario though. Fansubbers fansub to keep things authentic >> Localizers drop features to make more profit on the sale >> Fansubbers gain popularity because you are paying more for less with localizers >> Localizers put out less because they have a smaller bankroll...
- These days, the big 2 are moving to an online model just to keep up with the fansubbers. AS and CN dropped their Anime lineups in favor of some of the worst fucking TV I have seen in years. (Still some gems but christ...) and fansubbers are actually being attacked by Japanese companies that suddenly came down with a severe case of giveashit. It
starting to look has looked like since 2009 that Western releases of anime are gonna be coming from sites like Hulu and Crunchy Roll. (That latter one is ironic as all hell.) with viz and Funimations doing the localizations.
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... Word.
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I watch probably 90% of my anime on Hulu, I love that site. What I don't get from Hulu I get from Netflix. Netflix doesn't have quite the library that Hulu does, but it's there and I like it.
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Same. Well for me it's Hulu and Crunchy Roll. I only go to Fansubbers for series I can't get from these 2 sites. (Code Geass Season 2 Anyone?) And when I do buy a DVD, it's usually for a series I'm a big fan of. And, if it's an OVA or TV show, only the boxed set. I'm glad the days of 30 buck for 1 hour of anime are fucking gone. And I hope they stay gone.
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Yes, ADV is dead. They merged with a company in Japan and it turned out to be a horrible idea. They split up into like five different holding companies and finally seem to have shit straightened out, but the 'splinter' companies aren't really making anything new as far as I know.
(I don't, actually.)
Most of the new anime I catch is still on Adult Swim...they get enough to keep me watching most every week. I plan to start checking whats on Hulu and Funimations site more often though.
I really don't care enough to pay for Netflix just for anime anymore.
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I too hope they are gone for good. Does anyone remember when gundam wing just started here i had to pay $40 for each VHS at an ANIME store
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Adult Swim doesn't hate anime, it hates that they don't get as many views as they'd like... they get so few they knocked it down to a single day. Maybe if they still had Yu Yu Hakusho I'd still watch anime on Adult Swim. I mean they never aired anything major except for recently with Code Geass and Death Note. They also aired one of the Gundams I can't remember.
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Yes, ADV is dead. They merged with a company in Japan and it turned out to be a horrible idea.
Yeah, sounds like what CPM was trying to do... that didn't turn out well either.
They split up into like five different holding companies and finally seem to have shit straightened out, but the 'splinter' companies aren't really making anything new as far as I know.
(I don't, actually.)
ADV was a schizophrenic company to start with. They did split in two to release Hentai under the Soft Cell brand around the time they released Evangelion. Also, After checking on wiki. They died in 2009. (R.I.P. also ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ for Overpricing Farscape you sons of a bitches.)
Most of the new anime I catch is still on Adult Swim...they get enough to keep me watching most every week. I plan to start checking whats on Hulu and Funimations site more often though.
More about this down below.
I really don't care enough to pay for Netflix just for anime anymore.
Same here for XBL. There is a plethora of anime on that. But I just never bought any. I'm really happy with the Hulu model though.
I too hope they are gone for good. Does anyone remember when gundam wing just started here i had to pay $40 for each VHS at an ANIME store
Wasn't much into Gundam Wing but definitely Evangelion and Nadesico. Both those shows where atrociously overpriced.
Adult Swim doesn't hate anime, it hates that they don't get as many views as they'd like... they get so few they knocked it down to a single day. Maybe if they still had Yu Yu Hakusho I'd still watch anime on Adult Swim. I mean they never aired anything major except for recently with Code Geass and Death Note. They also aired one of the Gundams I can't remember.
I'd like to believe that. If I wasn't present on the AS board when all this shit about toonami being dropped and the "Action" block being moved to Saturday went down. Yeah Mike Lazzo can go catch Herpes. Doesn't really matter though cause I give AS 3 more years before they are fully replaced by infomercials. (Or reruns of Scooby Doo, take your pick) Hopefully, Comedy Central Might pick up Venture Brothers if that happens. It's all I care about on AS anymore.
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Same. Well for me it's Hulu and Crunchy Roll. I only go to Fansubbers for series I can't get from these 2 sites. (Code Geass Season 2 Anyone?) And when I do buy a DVD, it's usually for a series I'm a big fan of. And, if it's an OVA or TV show, only the boxed set. I'm glad the days of 30 buck for 1 hour of anime are fucking gone. And I hope they stay gone.
Crunchy Roll is insulting. A) I hate streaming. Refuse to watch any tv show on a stream, anime or otherwise. If I can't have a local copy, whether by torrent or dvd, I can live without it. I haven't watched a single Bleach episode since CR took over the broadcasting and POS media took over subbing.
B) I'm sorry, make me wait an extra week to watch a low quality sub/encoding job? Fuck that. Even if I pay to watch, the sub job is still shitty, almost a machine translation. I'd rather watch a dub than sit through a botched sub.
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Last episodes of Bleach I saw was when they finally animated "The Lust" chapters. You know the ones where Kubo decided to write about a Heavy Metal album cover he once saw of two Satans firing nukes at each other? (That's the only way I can describe the final Ichigo vs Ulquiorra fight.) And before that I stopped just before the filler that cut into the Hueco Mundo Arc so I really don't know how good or bad Bleach is on CR.
My experiences so far have been positive with CR so I'm not complaining. That of course, doesn't mean I doubt bleach's sub is botched there. If anything, I believe it more based on pattern recognition. :D
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I got the season 1-4 DVD set for 90 bucks.
:P
The whole "support the original authors" kick is just a bunch of crap.
Crunchyroll can burn in hell, dirty streamers. Streams suck, and unfortunately, that's where things are headed. I refuse to watch netflix, hulu, or Crunchyroll. Keep the streaming to youtube, with the home made music videos where it belongs. Hell, you can even get a local copy on cable these days. It's called DVR. Seems to me, streaming tv on the internet is a step BACKWARDS.
If you're wondering where my hatred of streaming comes from, it's because I live in Oklahoma, where we get a LOT of bad weather, and the internet tends to go out. "Get a better internet service" really isn't an option, as I've had DSL (worthless junk), have cable right now, and well, we have satellite tv and that goes wonky every time a cloud passes by, so I'm not getting satellite internet. If the power goes out while I have a local copy, I can hop on my trusty portable dvd player or the laptop and watch the show via flash drive, dvd, or external (I have one that you don't have to plug into the wall).
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I got the season 1-4 DVD set for 90 bucks.
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Same :D
The whole "support the original authors" kick is just a bunch of crap.
Crunchyroll can burn in hell, dirty streamers. Streams suck, and unfortunately, that's where things are headed. I refuse to watch netflix, hulu, or Crunchyroll. Keep the streaming to youtube, with the home made music videos where it belongs. Hell, you can even get a local copy on cable these days. It's called DVR. Seems to me, streaming tv on the internet is a step BACKWARDS.
Yep. That's where they are headed.
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I'd like to believe that. If I wasn't present on the AS board when all this shit about toonami being dropped and the "Action" block being moved to Saturday went down. Yeah Mike Lazzo can go catch Herpes. Doesn't really matter though cause I give AS 3 more years before they are fully replaced by infomercials. (Or reruns of Scooby Doo, take your pick) Hopefully, Comedy Central Might pick up Venture Brothers if that happens. It's all I care about on AS anymore.
AS is still acquiring new anime, hell they just started Kekkaishi not too long ago and they still get a lot of traffic on their humor series. New Bleach is starting again at the end of the month. FMA: Brotherhood just started reruns so don't know when that'll return.
It just doesn't seem to get nearly as many viewers as their humor series, so I can see why they slowed down a bit with it. As far as I know Bleach and Inuyasha (bleh) are the only series that've gotten solid viewership. Other series usually just don't seem that impressive, and I doubt the shows have much staying power with reruns either.
Have you tried cFosSpeed? Might not help if your ISP really blows, but its got my seal of approval.
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well FMA brotherhood did just reach the end of season one so it would make sense to show reruns for a while
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well FMA brotherhood did just reach the end of season one so it would make sense to show reruns for a while
That's what I figured, I don't really keep track.
Hell, I'm not that fond of Brotherhood...or remakes in general.
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Why did they remake FMA anyway. To paraphrase a certain famous game critic "I have things in my Refrigerator that are older than that show." And it was pretty solid as well. Not like they where rewriting crap.
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I thought Brotherhood followed the mangas story line which the original anime completely ignored about half way through in order to finish up the show. I can't say for sure considering I never finished the manga just going off of what I remember reading.
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FMA brotherhood is indeed following the manga, so in a way it split FMA into 2 versions like the Tenchi has been split
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A better parallel might be Ah! Megami Sama which started off as a "Barely Based on Source Material" OVA. And ended up as a regular TV show based more on the Manga...
Oh well. There is an ass ton of Anime that needs to get rebooted. Top of my list of series I would like to see get one is Battle Angel. Maybe James Cameron (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437086/) can spark some new interest in the series.
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1.Van Dread
2.Robotech (that was the start for me)
3.Steel Angel Kurumi
those are my top three.
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I got the season 1-4 DVD set for 90 bucks.
:P
The whole "support the original authors" kick is just a bunch of crap.
Crunchyroll can burn in hell, dirty streamers. Streams suck, and unfortunately, that's where things are headed. I refuse to watch netflix, hulu, or Crunchyroll. Keep the streaming to youtube, with the home made music videos where it belongs. Hell, you can even get a local copy on cable these days. It's called DVR. Seems to me, streaming tv on the internet is a step BACKWARDS.
If you're wondering where my hatred of streaming comes from, it's because I live in Oklahoma, where we get a LOT of bad weather, and the internet tends to go out. "Get a better internet service" really isn't an option, as I've had DSL (worthless junk), have cable right now, and well, we have satellite tv and that goes wonky every time a cloud passes by, so I'm not getting satellite internet. If the power goes out while I have a local copy, I can hop on my trusty portable dvd player or the laptop and watch the show via flash drive, dvd, or external (I have one that you don't have to plug into the wall).
LOL, I live in Oklahoma, right in the path of "Tornado alley" and my internet in the last 15 years hasn't gone out long enough to ever make a complaint like the one you're making.
Streams are also not as bad as what some of these clowns have made them out to be. If you've got even a remotely good internet connection Hulu and Netflix will give a very good quality visual. Faster the connection, better the quality. Currently I'm on a 1 meg connection (19.99 a month, cheaper than some dialups) and Hulu's video quality reminds me of what I used to see on Saturday and Sunday latenights.
Netflix occasionally leaves something to be desired though. When I had a fast connection (5megs) it was all but dvd quality with no interruptions. With my current connection I get at least 1 "you connection has slowed, please wait while we adjust your playback" for every 4 full length movies I watch/stream. Image quality is about VHS quality. A little trick though, sometimes it's faster to just refresh the webpage and let it load again. It will start right where you left off.
I can't speak Japanese, but I was married to a Japanese woman and I have a Japanese daughter and we watch anime a lot. She has told me that sometimes the Subs are wrong, but more often than not because of the differences in English and Japanese the subs are correct for the most part it's just that English and Jap don't translate directly and you need to make alterations to make things understandable. Then there are some subs that just fubarred but hell that happens.
A lot of the hate posts I've read are just wrong, reminds me of the WoW forums, jump on something and let it roll, hate for the sake of hating.
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Can't stand subs myself. In any circumstances. I can't pay attention to the visuals if I keep having to read the damn screen.
It might be related to why every time I see Evangelion I just want to punch them in the face. (Hard to do without breaking your TV hah.)
Or it might not.
At any rate, anyone with a connection under 5 megabit should use cFosSpeed in my opinion. I'm on an EVDO connection and it makes pretty much everything better.
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I watch every anime with the subs enabled because it can be hard to hear the tv sometimes and trust me the subs make a lot more sense than the dubs to at times
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It all depends on the quality of the translation (step 1) and the quality of the presentation. (Step 2)
Step one is easy to screw up. I ranted a little about L's and R's (and B's and V's) in another thread but that just one of the ways a translation can be a little flaky. Another way is to screw up cultural differences. You can be too literal and end up making no sense. (Though I'm sure you will please some purist freaks) On the same token, you can just insert what you figure is the closest NA equivalent and end up sounding totally corny. (See almost all of Streamlines dubs. Just what the hell is a slogwart Mr. Macek?)
Step two is even easier to screw up. You can either Subtitle or Dub for presentation. Subtitles run the risk of alienating people that can't multi task. (It actually takes a little practice to pan a scene and read the subs to get the full effect of whats going on.) Also, there are other concerns like Making your Subtitles too long and stay on screen for far to short. Causing the viewer to rewind constantly. (problem with a few fansubs) And not Subtitling enough. If we don't understand the language we probably can't read the signs either. And if you are going to leave a cultural reference as is there had better be a footnote at the top of the screen.
Now if you go dubbing, you run into the problems of lip-synching (It's Godzilla! <lips flap for another 30 seconds>) and Emoting. Which that final bit is the biggest problem with Anime dubs. Flat, emotionless, Monotone voices sound obnoxious enough but nothing horrifies the ears like fake emotions. And if you can't character act DON'T CHARACTER ACT. Use your normal voice god damn it!. By way of example, and because I find bad dubbing to be rather funny, here is the top 50 worst VA's in Video Game history (http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/top-50-worst-videogame-voice/335053). Note that number 7 is more of an example of bad translation and not bad dubbing. Paul Eiding is actually a competent VA.
Admittedly however, it's far easier to screw up a dub then a sub. Subs aren't better by default though. They are just easier to pull off.
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that is why I said at times, not all the times some of the series do a good job others, not so much :D
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that is why I said at times, not all the times some of the series do a good job others, not so much :D
Oh definitely. I was mostly looking for an excuse to post the top 50 worst Video game VA's when I posted that. :D
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those fifty were funny thanks for that :D
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I dunno. To me shitty dubs were a problem of the 90s. I haven't really noticed it since.
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there are still some going on even today but they are less than the 90's
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those fifty were funny thanks for that :D
You are welcome ;D
I dunno. To me shitty dubs were a problem of the 90s. I haven't really noticed it since.
This is true.
Also:
Link. When he is crouching you can make him do the duckwalk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKTJfCWLMIo).
Note: I have no idea why I just posted that. Nor do I have any idea why I almost popped a blood vessel laughing at it...
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LOL, I live in Oklahoma, right in the path of "Tornado alley" and my internet in the last 15 years hasn't gone out long enough to ever make a complaint like the one you're making.
Streams are also not as bad as what some of these clowns have made them out to be. If you've got even a remotely good internet connection Hulu and Netflix will give a very good quality visual. Faster the connection, better the quality. Currently I'm on a 1 meg connection (19.99 a month, cheaper than some dialups) and Hulu's video quality reminds me of what I used to see on Saturday and Sunday latenights.
Netflix occasionally leaves something to be desired though. When I had a fast connection (5megs) it was all but dvd quality with no interruptions. With my current connection I get at least 1 "you connection has slowed, please wait while we adjust your playback" for every 4 full length movies I watch/stream. Image quality is about VHS quality. A little trick though, sometimes it's faster to just refresh the webpage and let it load again. It will start right where you left off.
I can't speak Japanese, but I was married to a Japanese woman and I have a Japanese daughter and we watch anime a lot. She has told me that sometimes the Subs are wrong, but more often than not because of the differences in English and Japanese the subs are correct for the most part it's just that English and Jap don't translate directly and you need to make alterations to make things understandable. Then there are some subs that just fubarred but hell that happens.
A lot of the hate posts I've read are just wrong, reminds me of the WoW forums, jump on something and let it roll, hate for the sake of hating.
LOL... What part of Oklahoma are you in? I live in good ol Chickasha, where, if the wind blows, the techs shove their thumbs up their asses and run. They have to send service techs from oklahoma city, and it takes them 2 hours to get here, when it only takes me 30 minutes to get there. And before I got cable, the DSL was down daily, which is the reason I switched to cable, which is still down about 2-3 times a month in good weather.
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I think that top 50 list could've been made up entirely of Chaos Wars. I have a pretty high tolerance for bad dubs, but that game takes the cake, pie, cookies, and bakery.
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I think that top 50 list could've been made up entirely of Chaos Wars. I have a pretty high tolerance for bad dubs, but that game takes the cake, pie, cookies, and bakery.
Following that link at the end of the video brought me to this (http://audioatrocities.com/games/chaoswars/index.html).
Wow that is bad. :D I like to believe that all bad dubbing is the result of people getting members of there family to do the VA work.
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I just watched the first half of hetalia the other night...and I'd thought I'd become immune to wtf after watching anime for so many years. There are three possible extreme reactions to this series. It's funny as hell, it's horribly offensive, or it's overall most random peice of crap you've ever seen. Probably some combination of the three.
Germany: Don't you have anything USEFUL to contribute to this war?
Italy: (opens a suitcase and a guy halfway pops out) Well, I have Machiavelli.
Germany: ...put him away.
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I've watched
5 minutes (lulz the episodes are only 5 minutes long) of that show and already I'm hooked. Political satire is a favorite genre of mine. Especial satire that pokes fun at everyone. Including the satirists.
Thanks for the Heads up RyRain.
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I thought that France was the weakest country I mean I never heard of a french victory before (sorry to anyone who is French and reading this) I mean Italy has won at least once ;D
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I thought that France was the weakest country I mean I never heard of a french victory before (sorry to anyone who is French and reading this) I mean Italy has won at least once ;D
As an Italian let me tell you that the only wars Italy won by herself (not being in any sort of coalition-alliance) from 1861 (date of birth of the kingdom of Italy) onwards are the colonial wars against Lybia, Eritrea, Somalia and Albania.
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As an Italian let me tell you that the only wars Italy won by herself (not being in any sort of coalition-alliance) from 1861 (date of birth of the kingdom of Italy) onwards are the colonial wars against Lybia, Eritrea, Somalia and Albania.
What other wars has Italy fought by herself in that time?
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What other wars has Italy fought by herself in that time?
I forgot to mention the war against Ethiopia in the late '30s, but no big war against other European powers on her own. We even had to get help from France a couple times to fight against Austria-Hungary to "retake" Lombardy and the Northeastern regions. And Britain had to supply most of the cash and weapons for Garibaldi to take Southern Italy from the Borbons.
So we don't actually have an impressive track record after the Ancient Romans or a few big victories during the Medieval and Renaissance periods. (somebody else might disagree, but these are my feelings on the matter)
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As an Italian let me tell you that the only wars Italy won by herself (not being in any sort of coalition-alliance) from 1861 (date of birth of the kingdom of Italy) onwards are the colonial wars against Lybia, Eritrea, Somalia and Albania.
I'm usually pretty good with geography but even I had to google Eritrea. Damn that's a tiny tiny country. Sorta the Rhode Island of Africa. :D
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i have heard of Ethiopia but never Eritrea before
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Y'all made me start watching anime I haven't seen again.
Yay legal streaming!
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As a side note, if you do watch Hetalia, be warned of massive Ho Yay (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HoYay). But ya, the reason for that particular joke was that it's grouped the countries through most of the series by Axis Powers (Just Germany, Italy, and Japan from the point I've seen) and the Allied Forces (uses the United States, France, Russia, England, and China as the mains, yes I realize neither of these constitutes the full list of who fought on what side, don't blame me) as the main characters. Other countries make random apparent though, including countries that no longer exist. Also, don't try to put this on ANY coherent timeline. The events parodied are very random chronologically speaking, and some (assuming I'm not bombing out on my historical knowledge, most) of them don't actually correlate to events, just relationships between countries.
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Thank you for this thread. I've been looking for something to watch and have started downloading six different series without knowing anything about them except their names. (Elfen Leid, Shakugan no Shana, Black Lagoon, Death Note, Gravion and
Bleach.) My top 3 anime are, in no particular order:
1. Irresponsible Captain Tylor - Old, but funny and wise as hell
2. Vision of Escaflowne - I think I watched this end to end 4 times
3. Crest of the Stars / Banner of the Stars
- Story of two people who come to depend on each other, against the backdrop of interstellar war
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Elfen Lied is pretty badass... it gets pretty gay from time to time. Too emotional, I just want to see some bloodshed! Anywho I watched Abenobashi Shopping Arcade it was very funny I highly recommend it.
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the only thing that i disliked about gravion was that two of the main male out of three crossdressed at least once but it more than made up for it with the busty babe pilots and there should have been a jiggle counter.