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Title: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on December 28, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
Hello,
Mute Lovestone here,
Today i am proud to inform you that i am Building Whore Master Evolved.

Whore master evolved originally was going to be a port, but then i decided im going to make it into its own game
WM:Evolved will run on the xna framework.
currently the game is close source,
which i hope doesn't bother anyone
I have decided to keep the Game Closed source

be warned this is a free project so i will not always be working on it, but i will work on it as much as i can
I have decided to make this the only current game project i will be working on that way i can finish features in a timely fashion
To test out what it looks like: Link removed due to no game-play to view what the UI looks like please refer to the development screenshots link below

!Requirements
All of the requirements will be included in the zipped or installer package when the game is released

IF you have a feature you might like to see added feel free to pm me or post it here and ill get back to you about it as soon as i can


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Ideas
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this project is meant to add some new flavors to the game as well as making some modified things





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Links
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Editor Download Latest (https://mega.nz/#!ksFxGRDB!Nj42OYC85yjdnsLSxGnO9X4suYH19ec0tHwv5YF1NF0)
New Game Story Discussion (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3622.0)
 Ideas and polls (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3521.0)
 Finished Features (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3528.0)
 features Discussion (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3527.0)
 Family System Discussion (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3526.0)
Image Tags (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3532.0)(Please Check out for some idea of what type of sexaual tags will be in game)
Progress Updates(More then likely daily) (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3534.0)
General Discussion for Evolved (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3541.0)
Devolopment ScreenShots (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3543.0)
Game System Explinations (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3537.0)
(Download Link Removed due to Rebuild)
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New Features-Planned
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Unknown Due to Rebuild will update when Ready


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Features up for discussion
(Please do give your ideas on the features below)
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- Player Being able to fight in the arena
- Player being able to equip armor and other things
- some items being only for the player
Title: Whore Master Redone-Change Log
Post by: MuteDay on December 31, 2014, 04:29:14 AM
Editor Release 0.0.0.1
Added Configure Editor
Added Image Tagger
Added Unique Character Editor




(Will post download Link in a few hours once i clean some code up a little)


Game Release (None Yet due to Im Rebuilding the whole game)
Title: Whore Master Redone-Planned for next update
Post by: MuteDay on December 31, 2014, 04:32:50 AM
WM:Evolved-Version 0.0.0.1
Add Basic Game Play


WM:Evolved Editor-version 0.0.0.2

Add way to make Building Upgrades
Add way to make Buildings
Add Random Character Editor
Title: Re: Whore Master 2
Post by: Kestin on December 31, 2014, 05:11:04 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 01, 2015, 10:57:10 AM
added some information to the page, feel free to comment on the ideas
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: Uriel on January 01, 2015, 12:00:18 PM
Good luck to you sir.
Is there a reason to start a dev in 800x600?
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 01, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
that was just how i set the thing to get it working, i am working on editor to allow you to modify the screen size
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: Xela on January 01, 2015, 12:19:08 PM
Interesting :)

Logic can be ported, but can you also port GUI? Or will you have to rewrite that?
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 01, 2015, 12:58:22 PM
Im able to partaly transfer the gui but some i have to recreate
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: Xela on January 01, 2015, 02:48:16 PM
Im able to partaly transfer the gui but some i have to recreate

I expected that, so it cannot be done quickly and will require effort... good luck!
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 01, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
actualy now that i transfered over the gui now i will have no issues, mostly atm what is taking my time is that i am trying to figure some ways to expand it to add more stuff in
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 02, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
Please check the new link, it is updated with a few things, mostly the editor is finished, but still working on new screens, so it is disabled
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 02, 2015, 11:13:25 PM
Updated Game, if you have any errors please do post your debuglog.txt here
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: Uriel on January 03, 2015, 02:52:55 AM
I can only see the main menu. Nothing works but quit button. No errors in logs.
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 03, 2015, 03:33:12 AM
lol so far thats what is there is the start, i am posting what i have so people can view it
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: Uriel on January 03, 2015, 11:00:37 AM
You've updated the version, that's why i thought something new must be available for testing...
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 03, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
my next update will have some gameplay, basicly it  is easy to tell what  has been done by looking at version Version = a.b.c.d
a=Massive update of gameplay
b=smaller update of gameplay
c=Large bug fix
d= smaller bug fixes
(so if you only want to test bugs of gameplay wait for a version change in the a or b range
but if your wanting to keep checking what ive done check for any  change)
FYI the update i did was 1 to update the game with the new main menu gui i have and 2 to try to fix a problem another player was having
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: Sharkey on January 03, 2015, 04:34:53 PM

Dunno, who you chose XNA (probably monogame if you want to port) instead of something that allows you to make things incredibly faster in design mode and still can be portable.
For example: Godot Engine(GDScript/C++), Unity3D(C#/JS) etc.
The most important element of this game is GUI. It requires a lot of implementations of controls/widgets of all kind. If you don't have good GUI system, then you're fucked up at start of coding.
Also it would be great to easily port this game to android/ios.
It's good that you do something.
However later you will complain, that you only waste time on things that you could do faster by using more advanced tools.
Don't reinvent the wheel...
If only i hadn't a commercial project, i would be prone to help.


Sorry for my shitty english.
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 03, 2015, 05:03:08 PM
Dunno, who you chose XNA (probably monogame if you want to port) instead of something that allows you to make things incredibly faster in design mode and still can be portable.
For example: Godot Engine(GDScript/C++), Unity3D(C#/JS) etc.
The most important element of this game is GUI. It requires a lot of implementations of controls/widgets of all kind. If you don't have good GUI system, then you're fucked up at start of coding.
Also it would be great to easily port this game to android/ios.
It's good that you do something.
However later you will complain, that you only waste time on things that you could do faster by using more advanced tools.
Don't reinvent the wheel...
If only i hadn't a commercial project, i would be prone to help.


Sorry for my shitty english.
if you would have read, im building this for windows only, i choose xna because i dont like how the others feel, can you please leave comments about my choice of engines out of here, please, i am building this not you, i am not trying to be rude
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: TitanSon on January 03, 2015, 05:28:42 PM
Xan i see ur point ... also i see mute's point ... but both of u don't hack at each other  ;D  ... be cool and stay calm ... xan if u think another tool would be better ... why don't u invest time and try to do it .. .and mute ... u could help ur master-brother in any creative way because both of u could combine ur ideas how eah of ur ideas could do better improvements .... thats my opinion and i hope i didnt disrespect any of u
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 03, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
im not trying to be rude, i use xna because it is what i have always used and for me it runs good, im not instrested in porting the game, the game sizes are to large, and with unity the game isnt as easily moddable, and if i wantted c++ i would have just used source code

Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: Sharkey on January 04, 2015, 05:48:31 AM
if you would have read, im building this for windows only, i choose xna because i dont like how the others feel, can you please leave comments about my choice of engines out of here, please, i am building this not you, i am not trying to be rude

I'm also don't want to be rude.
I just want to somehow warn (that's probably wrong word) you.
If you do this for learning purposes - it's ok, but if you do this for anybody else, you should don't run before you can walk.

xan if u think another tool would be better ... why don't u invest time and try to do it .. .

Just because i don't have so many free time to do another project.
And ofcourse i would prefer to play instead of working. ;)
Maybe in february, i will find some time.

i use xna because it is what i have always used and for me it runs good, im not instrested in porting the game, the game sizes are to large, and with unity the game isnt as easily moddable, and if i wantted c++ i would have just used source code

I don't blame you for XNA. I would be hypocrite if i do that.
I have got almost 2 years experience with XNA and i felt comfortable with it.
It's sad that it's not longer supported.
I just wonder why you chose XNA instead of Unity3D (if you prefer C#) or even monogame (it's almost the same architecture as XNA, with great support).

If by game size you mean the files size.
It's pretty simple way to reduce that size, for example data compression.
Simple zip should significantly reduce size without high impact on loading.

If by game size you mean that the project scale is too big.
It's because you're using low level tools.

Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 04, 2015, 09:32:54 AM
can we please stop talking about frameworks, this thread is for whore master evolved, it is in xna so please can you move the framwork discussion to its own thread
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 06, 2015, 04:58:36 PM
added me link no new gameplay but few new features
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 07, 2015, 05:57:17 AM
please check out the newest version, got alot to do tonight will update logs and other things later
One side not, i forgot to change the version number that shows in the title of the game, but it is just a string so it isnt any biggy
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 07, 2015, 03:49:03 PM
updated editor, it is far from complete but it is getting closer
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 07, 2015, 03:56:40 PM
give me few before downloading the editor i missed few things
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 07, 2015, 04:11:30 PM
ok editor ready for download enjoy
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: aizik123 on January 07, 2015, 07:52:19 PM
im sorry im a little new here, i have really gotten into the WM series. I just downloaded the WM evolved that you just updated just now, and i open up the game, and i hit on new game, i can cant hit the "ok" button to start the game. I'm not sure if i've done something wrong myself, or what, i was just asking to see if that is an issue.
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 07, 2015, 08:02:37 PM
Lol WM: Evolved is currently not a playable game, i just am releasing it so people can see what ive done so far
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: aizik123 on January 07, 2015, 08:12:17 PM
Oh, ok. Thank you ^^ it does look amazing, i love how you've made a customize so you can auto setup alot of stuff, that allows alot more customization for everyone ^^ keep it up man, its great.
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 07, 2015, 08:32:35 PM
well keep checking on the game, here soon ill have some game play in the game
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 08, 2015, 01:40:04 PM
Ill be uploading the updated editor in about 30-45 mins, :)
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 08, 2015, 02:20:44 PM
uploaded to show off my progress lately
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 08, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
oh on a side not, please know that i am having all the gui(that hasnt already been done are being changed
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 09, 2015, 05:17:42 PM
Added a way to donate for people that would like to help :)
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 09, 2015, 09:29:12 PM
The tagger for WM:Evolved is about 90% complete expecting to be able to update soon
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 10, 2015, 02:25:52 AM
take a look at the new tagger :) enjoy
Title: Re: Whore Master Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 10, 2015, 07:14:01 PM
sorry to inform you all, but i will be unable to program anything on the game till moneday
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 13, 2015, 02:14:18 PM
Hey yall check out whats new to the game, no gameplay yet but youll like the work ive done
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: kanyedestiny on January 20, 2015, 01:23:44 AM
Is this available for download yet?
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 20, 2015, 02:34:56 AM
not currently, im expecting to be able to release by end of week, lets hope
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 23, 2015, 04:23:59 AM
i have decided i will not do small beta releases insdead i will do a large release once the following features of finished
1) starting brothel
2) 2-5 ways of getting new girls/beasts
3) Unique and random girls/beasts
4) a working inventory and item shop
5) A large amount of gameplay
6) stat system incorporated into the game
7 a large update to the girls/player/game/configure data

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: dullman on January 23, 2015, 05:51:53 AM
I must say that i understand your decision with wanting to have something to show.
As for ways of getting new girls do you want some suggestions?? If yes i have some for you if not just ignore this words:
- First i feel it's to easy in current version of WM to gain girls from dungeon, I propose to change how the dungeon works.
- Second way to gain new girls is through aquire them as free woman by paying theirs debt (it will be run by PC if he choose to do some walk in the city, also need ability to see girl stats before paying her debt, also much costly then buying her as slave)
- Third way is through are, when our contestant wins the tourment we get a prize (item/slave)
- Fourth way is through kidnappig girls from rivals
- Five way when one of our rival is dying her girls will search for new home
- Six add possibility to gain unique girls through birth.


Also i have a question on screen you show us i saw a gender of player so must ask is there a possibility that we can play as nymphomaniac as women means we can also work in brothel or use male slaves to have sex etc.?
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 23, 2015, 09:09:34 AM
lol yea im planning on making each gender have certain things it can do, and im planning on also including a sexuality
as a way to make each game very different

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: Romanul on January 25, 2015, 02:48:20 PM
If we are just trowing ideas, I've always wondered if catacombs/dungeon option could be cloned and reskin for more evil player characters types of playing. I mean if you could send your gangs to attack a village/town/"fortress of the good". From a mechanic point of view it would work just like the catacombs but instead of "monsters" you would have "soldiers" as opponents and instead of beast girls you would have peasant girls (common), noble women/priestess/high ranking officer women  (rare) , princess (extremely rare) and queen (unique per town/castle or whatever) to capture. You cold even have a counter on the player character page and tracks how many peasant girls/noble ladies/ princess/ queen you kidnapped/ enslaved/ ransom/freed (depinding on what you plan to implement as options in the game). I read in another thread that you want to implement wifes (not my thing if they are not slaves) but you could force the princess to marry you (as an option for good characters, the evil ones would just enslave her and her mother and make them slave wifes at best). :)


Of course it  doesn't have to be just a village (level 1), town (level 2 difficultly ), city, castle, fortress but also forest for those oriented on capturing elves/witches or for the really strange players the option to raid and orc/minotaur  camps (no ladies for the taking just loot).
I believe exploring a catacomb or raiding should yield some interesting finds once in a while. Also, it would be great if we would get a notification somehow when they capture someone important. I'd really wanna know when and what gang did that. It would be fun for story wise.






 Just my two cents.   
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 26, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
over the next few day i will be creating a document that will explain alot of the features and other things that will be going into evolved
please stay tuned for that to be released
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on January 26, 2015, 02:01:41 PM
If you "attack" some underground multidimensional infinite catacombs, you remain within the law, no matter what you do there.
If you attack common people, moreover kidnap queens, you are a criminal and a foe, hands down.

Such options require a different backstory rather than usual brothel-manager-with-dead-father stuff.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 26, 2015, 02:16:17 PM
If you "attack" some underground multidimensional infinite catacombs, you remain within the law, no matter what you do there.
If you attack common people, moreover kidnap queens, you are a criminal and a foe, hands down.

Such options require a different backstory rather than usual brothel-manager-with-dead-father stuff.




yea im currently working on the background story and the time frame before i get to work on gameplay
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: Romanul on January 26, 2015, 02:52:02 PM
If you "attack" some underground multidimensional infinite catacombs, you remain within the law, no matter what you do there.
If you attack common people, moreover kidnap queens, you are a criminal and a foe, hands down.

Such options require a different backstory rather than usual brothel-manager-with-dead-father stuff.

Well currently gangs have the option to kidnap women and the bring to the dungeon. Also, the player character has the option to enslave those women. That's braking the law in a massive way. Also, somehow I never felt restricted by the background story it didn't seem to matter much game-wise.


Anyway, I'll wait for Mute to show the document explaining the general lines and limits of the game.  :)
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on January 27, 2015, 09:38:59 AM
You never have to fight with any representatives of law, only with monsters and other gangs. I suppose there are no witnesses, or these enslaved women are too insignificant. You can't kidnap a queen in the same way while being a simple brothel manager.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 27, 2015, 09:48:22 AM
lol im currently working out things like giving girls that you capture a class and things like that, but you will have to wait to see my design document
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 27, 2015, 01:10:08 PM
added what i have done so far in the general outline, if anyone has a spesific part they would like to see, post it and ill get it in there for you


Im a little under the weather today so i might not get that much done today,
I apologize for the fact that i am unable to keep up with my orginal release expectation
I have been spending time with my wife and trying to feel better,
the last few days i have not felt 100%
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 27, 2015, 04:05:54 PM
Updated Op To show some new information and so it is as confusing
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: dullman on January 28, 2015, 06:19:40 AM
Hello again, i just want to ask something about wm:Evolved.
The basic version has a prototype of window which shows diferrent kinds of rooms, customization of brothels etc. The mine question is that if you planning in future to change brothels to more customizable buildings (girls will use rooms for work, for rest etc.)?
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 28, 2015, 10:04:13 AM
Hello again, i just want to ask something about wm:Evolved.
The basic version has a prototype of window which shows diferrent kinds of rooms, customization of brothels etc. The mine question is that if you planning in future to change brothels to more customizable buildings (girls will use rooms for work, for rest etc.)?


are you meaning am i planning on making each room customizable?
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 28, 2015, 09:12:23 PM
Large update to the general outline, please check it out and let me know what you think
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: dullman on January 29, 2015, 07:12:14 AM

are you meaning am i planning on making each room customizable?

Basically something like but i have little more customization, so that each brothel has the capacity, we can buy more but larger brothel doesn't mean we get more clients, Each type of room takes some units of capacity (e.g. bedroom 1 unit, bar+restaurant 5 unit etc.), After that we need to increase capacity if we hit max capacity. Each is room are able to be used to do different jobs e.g bar allow to have barmaids, table in restaurant allow to have waitress etc. So we need actually to take a moment and plan brothel to get max income with minimal expenses (Also as i said before the max amouunt of customer coming to brothel is indenpedent from size of brothel so if we use only one type of room we fast run of client, if use many rooms to serve each client in few areas we can gain more gold.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 29, 2015, 09:04:54 AM
Basically something like but i have little more customization, so that each brothel has the capacity, we can buy more but larger brothel doesn't mean we get more clients, Each type of room takes some units of capacity (e.g. bedroom 1 unit, bar+restaurant 5 unit etc.), After that we need to increase capacity if we hit max capacity. Each is room are able to be used to do different jobs e.g bar allow to have barmaids, table in restaurant allow to have waitress etc. So we need actually to take a moment and plan brothel to get max income with minimal expenses (Also as i said before the max amouunt of customer coming to brothel is indenpedent from size of brothel so if we use only one type of room we fast run of client, if use many rooms to serve each client in few areas we can gain more gold.


Hmmm ill have to think about that, but i belive that i will end up adding that as a sub system of the room management system
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on January 29, 2015, 09:07:05 AM
I see you have multiple skills for pregnancy and childbearing. How are you going to handle it? It takes years to raise a child after all.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 29, 2015, 09:15:43 AM
I see you have multiple skills for pregnancy and childbearing. How are you going to handle it? It takes years to raise a child after all.


i am currently looking for peoples thoughts on how i should manage the prgnancy system


i was thinking
that some traits will speed up the child development Ie NonHuman
i was also planning on making a room that can be bought that will speed up the development of any children placed in the room
and you can set options like, sell child at birth, as well as use spells on the building to further speed up the growth rate of children
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on January 29, 2015, 11:47:14 AM
Another question, who are daughters? In wm they are basically random characters, are you going to use random characters packs too?
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 29, 2015, 11:58:07 AM
Another question, who are daughters? In wm they are basically random characters, are you going to use random characters packs too?


daughters= 2 posibilities
1) A version of the girl that gave birth
2) a random character


Random Character packs= Simple answer, yes

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on January 29, 2015, 02:54:48 PM
Interesting. I never thought about using the very same unique girl, but with random name and traits.

Also, in theory it's possible to build two versions for some random packs, for young (loli) and adult characters. It will take more time than usual, of course.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 29, 2015, 03:20:27 PM
Interesting. I never thought about using the very same unique girl, but with random name and traits.

Also, in theory it's possible to build two versions for some random packs, for young (loli) and adult characters. It will take more time than usual, of course.


1) Yea the game will handle the whole part
2) Not really, i can build it into the editor so that when it created a Adult character it will build a Loli Version of the game character


Although with that, i will have to build a handeler to handle loli, or i have to allow loli in the game, although currently it is built to allow loli but only with the use of a command line,


I will do some research and find out the exact laws on loli where i live

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: 0nymous on January 29, 2015, 04:12:28 PM
I see you have multiple skills for pregnancy and childbearing. How are you going to handle it? It takes years to raise a child after all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qji5x8gBVX4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qji5x8gBVX4)

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 29, 2015, 04:26:19 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qji5x8gBVX4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qji5x8gBVX4)
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Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: 0nymous on January 29, 2015, 04:32:04 PM
Whoooops I completely missed the entire last page of the thread.
OH WELL

The point was any logical fallacies to the birth system  or just any of them in general can be explained by MAGIC
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 29, 2015, 04:38:51 PM
well all i got from the video was 1 second of nothing rofl
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on January 30, 2015, 12:22:38 AM
Thanks, cap. But I meant game mechanics, not logic  ::)
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 30, 2015, 12:27:04 AM
Thanks, cap. But I meant game mechanics, not logic  ::)


lol still working out all the systems and things like that
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 30, 2015, 03:17:07 PM
Update Notes:


Updated the general outline
Evolved, although no download currently has a complete ui change finished
General outline, although most of the data is unfinished, i have added alot so you can get an idea of what all evolved will have new about it
General outline Update (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3520.0;attach=1247)


And comments questions or ideas please feel free to post them here about the outline
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on January 31, 2015, 03:19:46 AM
If any free girl can leave you anytime depending on pure random, I'm afraid that people will avoid to use them, no matter their advantages. Usually there are stats like disposition and joy that prevent girls from leaving as long as they are high. They also might want higher salary at higher levels even being happy, so there could be an option to to increase it.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on January 31, 2015, 09:39:12 AM
If any free girl can leave you anytime depending on pure random, I'm afraid that people will avoid to use them, no matter their advantages. Usually there are stats like disposition and joy that prevent girls from leaving as long as they are high. They also might want higher salary at higher levels even being happy, so there could be an option to to increase it.




although they can leave they can also return, that is why they are free, they have freedom of choice,
But about increaseing income, that was one of my planned hidden features, one that wasnt going to show up in general outline
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 01, 2015, 06:37:14 PM
Currently working on the stats
(oulined stats about 60% complete)
(Codded stats about 20% complete)
(Editor stats about 15% complete)
(Roughting out duplicates, waiting to finish outlined stats)




Any thoughts on better stats please post your stat ideas here
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: ShoHaFa on February 01, 2015, 07:23:38 PM
For pregnancy, I'd suggest giving the daughters a 50-90 percent chance on each of her traits (rolled for each trait seperately!) to inherit it. So some may fall off, others may be randomly added by the game. That way, you can also introduce a "breeding" aspect, where players try to breed for extremely rare, untrainable, but highly desirable traits. And since they're all females and we have little control over the daddies, there'd be no option to crossbreed! So that would rule out "overpowered" girls. Also, keep any such traits out of any game-editors, and just give a slight chance to assign such traits upon girl creation, no matter if it's a unique or a special girl.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 01, 2015, 07:40:06 PM
For pregnancy, I'd suggest giving the daughters a 50-90 percent chance on each of her traits (rolled for each trait seperately!) to inherit it. So some may fall off, others may be randomly added by the game. That way, you can also introduce a "breeding" aspect, where players try to breed for extremely rare, untrainable, but highly desirable traits. And since they're all females and we have little control over the daddies, there'd be no option to crossbreed! So that would rule out "overpowered" girls. Also, keep any such traits out of any game-editors, and just give a slight chance to assign such traits upon girl creation, no matter if it's a unique or a special girl.




Hmm i like the idea, but ill ask you should the game randomly choose the perstage of the trait posibly of passing on or should it be done in game, or should the chance be asigned to each trait

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 01, 2015, 09:32:40 PM
Updated Stats Complete in the outline, although some do not have discriptions


Please do comment on what you think

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: ShoHaFa on February 02, 2015, 03:03:39 AM



Hmm i like the idea, but ill ask you should the game randomly choose the perstage of the trait posibly of passing on or should it be done in game, or should the chance be asigned to each trait
Well, at first when I thought of the trait inheritance, I figured 90 percent would be neat. But, then I thought it might be a bit much, since there's also supposedly some "daddy genes" involved, which should negate some of the chance. So now I think it should be lower, but that 50% might be a bit too low for it to remain fun. So, I'd test such a feature a few times, get a sense of how the traits get inherited, and tweak the overall percentage until you're satisfied.

It's been ages since I did any math with bell-curves and such, but if you remember how to do em, it might help. You'd want to end up with daughters generally being very similar to their mothers, but rarely identical, and rarely unrecognizably different. When mother and daughter are extremely similar, or even identical, you could even program things in such a manner, that the daughter uses the image files of the mother. Something like:
general similarity:  ~80 percent of the time
extreme similarity: ~5 percent of the time (daughter uses mothers' image files)
identical: maybe 1%, but handles the same as extreme similarity. But congrats to the player for a successful cloning  :D
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 02, 2015, 11:26:43 AM
Well, at first when I thought of the trait inheritance, I figured 90 percent would be neat. But, then I thought it might be a bit much, since there's also supposedly some "daddy genes" involved, which should negate some of the chance. So now I think it should be lower, but that 50% might be a bit too low for it to remain fun. So, I'd test such a feature a few times, get a sense of how the traits get inherited, and tweak the overall percentage until you're satisfied.

It's been ages since I did any math with bell-curves and such, but if you remember how to do em, it might help. You'd want to end up with daughters generally being very similar to their mothers, but rarely identical, and rarely unrecognizably different. When mother and daughter are extremely similar, or even identical, you could even program things in such a manner, that the daughter uses the image files of the mother. Something like:
general similarity:  ~80 percent of the time
extreme similarity: ~5 percent of the time (daughter uses mothers' image files)
identical: maybe 1%, but handles the same as extreme similarity. But congrats to the player for a successful cloning  :D


Well, not only will it be randomized, but the chances raise as the girl's stats rise, thier are stats(yes i am going extreamly fantasy here) that increase the chances of getting positive traits, but also lowers negitive traits


but the traits really wont be what makes each girl special, it will be the stats :)
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 02, 2015, 11:31:59 AM
Currently working on the stats
(oulined stats about 60% complete)
(Codded stats about 20% complete)
(Editor stats about 15% complete)
(Roughting out duplicates, waiting to finish outlined stats)

Any thoughts on better stats please post your stat ideas here
outlined stats 100% complete
Codding 30%
editor 20%
Remove duplicate stats=100%
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 02, 2015, 12:34:06 PM
outlined stats 100% complete
Codding 30%
editor 20%
Remove duplicate stats=100%
Outlined=complete
Removing Dublicates=complete
Codded=50% complete
Editor 20% complete
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: DarkTl on February 03, 2015, 06:23:25 AM
"If you turned the girl into a pet, you will be allowed to fully choose Her stats"? What do you mean?

I see you planning to rely on donations. Do you have any experience with it? I've seen many projects that hoped for donations and successfully closed because of their lack.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 03, 2015, 08:44:08 AM
"If you turned the girl into a pet, you will be allowed to fully choose Her stats"? What do you mean?

I see you planning to rely on donations. Do you have any experience with it? I've seen many projects that hoped for donations and successfully closed because of their lack.


1) it means that when you turn a girl into a pet you get to fully choose which stats to upgrade her stats at level up


2) i honestly have no experience with it, but im planning on doing a kickstarter and a pateron
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: Lurker on February 03, 2015, 09:21:12 AM
If you plan on getting donations you might want to be careful with what art you use in the game. If you dont have the artists permission there might be trouble.
Fan games are one thing but when money starts getting involved things change. Just something to think about.
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 03, 2015, 09:44:32 AM
Yea, i mean for the base game ill try to find me an artist that can do thier own images of girls, but they shouldnt get pissed about mods should they, sence i dont make the mods?
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on February 04, 2015, 08:53:45 AM
Added the editor, for the reason of tagging images
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on July 13, 2015, 05:03:25 PM
Im back, with new computer, so expect progress updates every so often!
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on July 18, 2015, 01:19:00 PM
Updated Posts with new changes
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on July 18, 2015, 01:47:20 PM
added download link for the editor
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on July 21, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
Added Link to the games story line discussion
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on July 22, 2015, 12:53:41 AM
added new poll, please do vote
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: Yamemai on July 24, 2015, 04:08:54 AM
Just read through the forum, and would like to comment on some of the things discussed;


1. Dungeon ideas (page 3, by dullman)
-- Maybe instead of having dungeons reset, dungeons can appear and disappear depending on time, and if you took/destroyed/whatever the 'core' (the core could be a boss or something.
-- In the old WM, I got a feeling that dungeons were kinda a portal to another world, so what you were doing was raiding places there, eg something like Gate: Thus the JSDF Fought There (it's a novel, but has a manga adaption)


2. Ways to get girls.
-- Building: Cyborg, Android, Homunculus, etc
-- Depending on laws and such, raiding villages/tribes/etc, joining wars, etc


3. Not sure what to call this, but uhh, Empire(?) & royalties/nobles(page 4, by Romanul); there are some ways you could go about this.
-- Take my example on portals to another world for example, you could raid other worlds and capture their royalties and such.
-- There was also my point on joining wars.
-- Or you could bribe people to kidnap, and sell, you royalties/nobles, this was you legally own them, but the process wasn't so 'legal'.
These to are way too ambiguous/ambitious
-- Also, maybe once you get enough 'power' you can try to take over, and go full world conquest XD (Could be tied to 'New Game+')
-- There is also the whole dungeon master idea.


4. Rooms and capacity. (page 4, by dullman)
-- Hmm, yeah rooms, and beds, should only be big enough for X amount of people at a time, and with the whole building, where they can only provide for X amount of people, due to time and such, makes it more realistic.


5. Jobs depending on buildings (same as 4)
-- I'm thinking this suggestion came from Sibr1x, where depending on what type of building you have (like kitchen, bar, gambling den, dungeon, etc), there are more options for what girls can do.

6. Pregnancy & Child rearing/raising (page 4-5)
-- So, you have a room that speeds up time, but no potion that accelerations/reverse age/body growth? I'm pretty sure it's possible, since I've read stuff online about it all being in the hormones produced, and there are even animals (jellyfish mainly) that can do this. Though if you you use the item, there might be more drawbacks, like mind of a child (naive, and such), but it'd allow quicker 'usage'.

7. Genetics (page 6)
-- This is pretty neat, and there are quite a few games with this, an example is breeding season.
-- Anyways, I'd probably say it's harder then it looks, as you'll have to set up 'profiles' for all the male costumers as well (idea came from succubus brothel)
-- Also, there are regular games, which uses... what was it called... well, you know that two by two chart you studied in biology. Anyways, pretty much each 'parent' has a pair for each 'trait', and there are dominate and recessives :p




Anyways, here's a new idea: New Game+. Pretty much, restarting the game with bonuses, could be anything: such as points to spend on bonuses (think selection of background and traits); depending on what you do/how you play, gain stuff; etc




Ps. Had it written better, but stupid wifi disconnected so it was lost :'C

Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: devilflame on October 25, 2015, 01:57:13 AM
http://imgur.com/n8EDPws
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: alien69 on October 29, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
anytime some alpha to play??
Keep going with work m8 GL :D
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: MuteDay on November 17, 2015, 10:48:57 AM
anytime some alpha to play??
Keep going with work m8 GL :D




my team and i are working on another game to raise funds to build the engine for this
Title: Re: Wm:Evolved
Post by: typhyon666 on November 29, 2015, 01:40:20 AM
Sounds like its going great, i hope you upload it into a SVN to make it simpler for newbies like myself