General Discussion

[lamoli]

Ohh while browsing on brothel game to find clothing idea and BGs i foud this..


http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ176115


and its a simple but rather well made monster girl brothel

[picobyte]

improved auto_equip is added to master branch. Also added some specializations for equipment:

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            if purpose == "Battle Mage":
                returns.extend(self.auto_equip(['health', 'mp', 'attack', 'magic'], exclude_on_stats=["agility", "luck", 'defence', 'intelligence'], slots=slots, real_weapons=True))

            elif purpose == "Barbarian":
                returns.extend(self.auto_equip(['health', 'attack', 'defence', 'constitution'], exclude_on_stats=["luck", 'agility'], slots=slots, real_weapons=True))

            elif purpose == "Wizard":
                returns.extend(self.auto_equip(['mp', 'magic', "luck", 'intelligence'], exclude_on_stats=["health", 'defence'], slots=slots, real_weapons=True))
(in favor of combat) Also to show that it makes the distinction.

Edit: also added was a left/right char button in equipment

BTW, what was the intention of the girls list, is it broken?

[DarkTl]

The girls list? If you mean cemetery, it will show dead characters - ie those with "After Life" location. There are many ways to make them useful, with and without resurrection.

[picobyte]

The girls list? If you mean cemetery, it will show dead characters - ie those with "After Life" location. There are many ways to make them useful, with and without resurrection.

No I was referring to in equipment screen of character. how do I get to the cemetary? I see a graveyard, but it only has a meet girls button. btw pushed fix for hero equipment.
It seems there is still a lot of hidden content, do I need to add something to my testing.rpy?
 

[DarkTl]

Ah, I see. It looks like Xela's (?) attempt to implement equipment setups based on character occupation using "equip_for" function - which is too outdated to work properly anyway.
And the whole thing probably should be deleted, because characters already have autoequipment system.

I'll finish and push cemetery today, but it won't work without dead characters. In theory they should die at Arena and inside Exploration module, but meanwhile dead ones can be added via kill_char function.

[DarkTl]

Alright, cemetery screen is ready - as a button at the graveyard screen. As long as you have in testing file something like

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        for i in xrange(10):
            new_random_girl = build_rc(pattern="Warrior")
            hero.add_char(new_random_girl)
            new_random_girl.status = "free"
            kill_char(new_random_girl)it will have chars to show.

Now I wonder what to do with the characters there. We decided to not have true resurrection because death should be a meaningful event, a serious punishment for miscalculations. But maybe something else could be done with them. Like resurrecting with lvl 1 and all stats at 5, or stealing their exp...

[picobyte]

yes that works, I guess I miss these things since I do not play the game long enough to notice. I'd like to reimplement some of the wage calculations, a lot can be ported, but were there plans for changes in this already?
I was also thinking about setting the location/job for selected persons (in girl control), because that is tedious to do if you have many chars. The location is a bit odd, though.

[DarkTl]

Wages were mostly disabled at some point during code rewriting after alpha. In case of core classes - such as prostitute - wages should be a part of tiers system to help balancing them. It's something that Xela wants to implement once he's done with Babe Runner demo.
However, simple occupations without direct income (like cleaner) do not require tiers and can use simpler logic.

Location is a very wide concept, it's not limited to player buildings. I'd say it's not safe to mess with it too much.

[DarkTl]

Xela, are you still in the project, considering your absence from the forum? Because if yes, then I have a few questions about DefenceBuffSpell, and if no, then Eliont and Old Huntsman are still active with their games.

[picobyte]

I have in my branch a set location and/or action for multiple selected chars via `girl control'. I think this should be desireable for micromanagement, too.
(@DarkTi: could be there are social obligations at times like this)

One thing I was wondering before: a free char does not generally allow access to its equipment, but is it then still allowed to auto equip?

[DarkTl]

I used to work as a delphi coder, so all my knowledge about python is based on pytfall development, where I never was the main coder.
Even though I know a thing or two about python and renpy now, it's not nearly enough to understand complex systems like sympy or battle engine.

A free character (without lover status) always has auto equipment enabled, and decides by herself which items to use/equip. You can give her items, but she may or may not take them, and may or may not equip/use them.
If you mean the three equipment sets you added recently, then yes, they are useless for free characters too.

[picobyte]

I used to work as a delphi coder, so all my knowledge about python is based on pytfall development, where I never was the main coder.
Even though I know a thing or two about python and renpy now, it's not nearly enough to understand complex systems like sympy or battle engine.

Well you do a little every day, work on something and after a while, during the process you create something, also you learn during the time. Rome was not built in a day. Some things can be difficult, but usually you can find somewhere how things can be done. Personally I am not too afraid of doing some calculations. Where is sympy in use then?

A free character (without lover status) always has auto equipment enabled, and decides by herself which items to use/equip. You can give her items, but she may or may not take them, and may or may not equip/use them.
If you mean the three equipment sets you added recently, then yes, they are useless for free characters too.

You mean that auto equip should not be available for free characters, right?

[Xela]

I am still around, gonna get heavy coding again early next year. I'll read through missed posts tomorrow or the day after.

[DarkTl]

Well you do a little every day, work on something and after a while, during the process you create something, also you learn during the time.

When you do something by yourself, yeah.
But when I look at Xela's most advanced code, I feel like I try to read Japanese text -_-

If I'll have to choose between maintaining his BE on my own and writing a simpler one (like that one in Old Huntsman's games), it will be the second option.

Where is sympy in use then?

It's used to simulate jobs workflow at very least, and possibly for exploration module too - since it's not ready yet, I cannot tell for sure.

You mean that auto equip should not be available for free characters, right?

Ohhkey, define auto equip then 

Because we usually mean auto equipment algorithm.
 Free characters decide on their own what to equip, and player cannot tell them what to equip. In order to do so they have to use autoequip algorithm of some kind, there is no way around 
 

[DarkTl]

I took a look at so called engines made for renpy by third party devs.

I kinda expected the old tiles engine to not work, but even Jake's battle engines don't work anymore in the modern renpy due to major changes in screens system.