Btw I have to say, I'm skeptical about making slaves free after 10 years = 3650 turns. It's like borrowing 10 000 000 gold from a bank to return 50 000 000 after 5000 turns. It might be a problem after all those turns will pass, but does the game last that long? If not, then such mechanics are empty and unbalanced.
Maybe, it's not empty if we flag it and someone actually plays for that long
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It's meaningless before ST, as I've said.
You just told me ST, like in SM and JoNT, is BS. Then you told me there will be ST with whipping as a part of it. Why? It's a BS, you said it yourself. Are we adding BS to the game now?
You misunderstood. Whipping (pain/fear) can be great motivator, but in most cases it shouldn't be required. I am opposed to the linear system where you: Ask for a kiss ==>> No ==>> Torture/No food ==>> As for a kiss ==>> Yes ==>> Ask to touch cock ==>> No ==>> No food again. ==>> Ask again ==>> BS...
I thought I wrote this damn thing like two or three times by now:
1) If char is local, they'd know their circumstances.
2) If pulled from elsewhere, you explain it to them.
3) They got to choose, work as [job] (they should be suited for or why the fuck would you want them to work that job) in your employment or you keep them as personal servants or as personal sex slaves and etc.
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First thing to decide in 3) is what you require of them and they can make a decision if they go along with it or not. Problem with JoNT/SM is that "slave" is a "unit" that is pretty much mind fucked and what they'll do basically depends on how long you've been training them and if you gave them "whip"/"candy" at just the right times during those training. That is bullshit. I mean in a dedicated game where that is the whole world setting, yeah. Ok, it's passable. In a broader sense it's absolute idiocy to have 2 people training one defiant slave to do shit.
Why do I have to explain this 2+2=4? We discussed this already and it's not even important right now. Should there be whipping options? Yeah, why not. But it should start with a simple talk and more often than not, if you're asking a person who doesn't have rights but may have skills to work for free and apply those skills, possibly with a chance to gain rights and freedom in distant future (even if that may be outside of game plays range), with an alternative being sent to milk cows and get raped/beaten in rural areas or certain death by forced labor under the harshest conditions elsewhere...
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?? Most would say: Yes! Ok... It's a fucked world we live in but I am taking that deal. In JoNT/ST they cannot afford that because it's pretty much:
Game Over after that. Well done, obedience training complete, don't forget to teach them how to cook... If you get a slave that resists, why would you spend all those days "training" them in obedience? It's fucking stupid. Make an example out of them for the others or sell them for min price. And find someone who's not an idiot.
We can afford that. Should there be options to beat a slave? Or a free char? Yeah, why not. Both with consequences. We could also have an obedience course where teachers explain to slaves their place and how gods themselves want them to obey their masters, might be useful... but we're not going to do the ==>> kiss ==>> candy thing.
Can there be a dungeon? Yes. Can you throw a slave in there (defiant or not) or a free char? Yes... all with their own consequences. How much can you trust someone who you randomly tortured or raped?
It's not all that complicated...
I understand that. I'm not wondering how MC should react to such lines. I'm wondering if slaves should even speak such lines or not.
Well... lets say that you have a slave girl who agreed to work as a cook. You suddenly approach her and tell her to fuck a pig. Than byte of that pigs cock, cook it and eat it... Should that be an automatic: Yes, My Master! or should she... I don't know, maybe say something? Or try to run away screaming for help...