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Feedback => New Features => Topic started by: Graen on January 23, 2010, 06:09:21 PM
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I'd like to see some/most traits be based on actual stats in the game. Traits would still confer their bonuses, and certain combinations would unlock other rare traits as well.
For instance, Breast Size could be a stat, where 50 or less would confer the Small Boobs trait, 100-200 would be Large Boobs and 201-255 would be Enormous Boobs. Multiple Breast Enlargement/Reduction potions could be used to get the desired breast size.
Traits could still affect stats as well, i.e. Large Boobs adding to the Charisma Stat, Enormous Boobs reducing Agility, etc.
The Same 0-255 scale (or any dev-chosen range) could be applied to the Obedience Stat, for traits like Iron Will, Meek, Broken Will, Dependent etc...
Doing this with addictions would also make the player invest more into curing his whores, as well as allowing addictions to be progressively worse to deal with. For example a high Vira-Blood Addict would stop working, and if it got bad enough, then eventually run away to get inseminated by the plant.
Virginity could be calculated for new whores based on the total value of her sex stats, and then be removed after she's had intercourse. For instance, if you acquired a new whore and her total sex stats were over 100, then she would not be given the Virgin trait to start with.
Obviously, some traits would be difficult to work into this system, racial traits being a prime example, those and other unique traits should however have a more powerful affect on stats making them traits to be prized or loathed.
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IIRC, we had a discussion along some of these lines a month or two ago. I think the main gist of it was "good idea, but let's wait for the building update". Since we're only handful of days away from that, it's probably a good time to bring this up again.
On the whole, I rather agree with you. Some traits wouldn't fit into this sort of system, obviously, but a lot of the "generic" ones that are given to the majority of girls would. The main problem with this, though, is that all the current girls would have to be edited. That alone makes this pretty unlikely, and overall there are certainly other things that can and should be worked on first - gangs, for instance, as well as endings.
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The main problem with this, though, is that all the current girls would have to be edited.
The way I see it the majority of the girls, that come with the game, are already in need of a desperate overhaul. (That's another topic!) Also, it seems to me, the hardest part of creating new girls is the graphical content required for each girl. Stats and Summaries for each girl take little time compared to the time gathering, sorting and modifying all the appropriate images.
Due to the modability of the game, once a new system is in-place it shouldn't be long before girl-packs are being created/recreated to take advantage of the new system.
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Perhaps. I happen to know, however, that the two most prolific pack creators are both quite reluctant to do anything of the sort - any revamping would have to be done by third parties. It's not impossible, of course, but expecting someone else to do the work magically won't get you anywhere.
My basic view is that this is still worth doing, but there's no good reason to start immediately. We're already past the point where it would be easy to do, and waiting won't make it much worse.
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We'd need to remake the framework for girls, then write a legacy handler that would assume a certain value for each stat that a girl doesn't have in the XML file. With that in place, any girls that aren't updated will still work, though they will tend to look the same stat-wise. As an example, if we were to add a breast size stat to the girls, then the default size could be, say "34 C." If a girl has the "Big Boobs" trait, the default size could be "36 DD;" "Small boobs" might be "32 B." Then changes to breast size in game could alter the traits a girl has: a girl with 34 C boobs gets implants, changing her to 34 DD and as a result of the new size, she is granted the "Big Boobs" trait.
With a legacy handler, we could implement new stats for girls without worrying that the vast majority of girl packs were built without the new stats. I suspect it would work similar to the way random girls are assigned stat values, though the stat ranges would be defined by the game (probably in the config file).
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I'd like a bit more variation, though. That's obviously not an issue with random girls, but unless you make the unique girls random on this point (which I, personally, wouldn't really mind - others might), you'll have all of them stuck on the same three values.
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A couple of thoughts on assigning traits to values:
Firstly, it pretty much destroys traits as traits and makes them each into skills/characteristics. Not necessarily a bad thing - it would even simplify some areas of code. But there are advantages to having some attributes as binary values. I can't imagine anyone being 25% an asassin, for instance. Or 75% virgin for that matter.
Second point is that I'm not sure how much use this is going to be. Boobs, for instance are going to tend to be 0% 50% or 100%, basically because people think of these things in extremes.
So my suggestion is that we keep the trait system as it is. That said, if anyone can make a compelling case for promoting a trait to a characteristic, I'd be willing to consider the change. But I think I'd prefer to do this on a case-by-case basis.
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I'd like a bit more variation, though. That's obviously not an issue with random girls, but unless you make the unique girls random on this point (which I, personally, wouldn't really mind - others might), you'll have all of them stuck on the same three values.
Yeah, my example had just the basics. In previous discussions of similar topics it was proposed that new values be assigned within a range, similar to the way it was done with random girls.
A couple of thoughts on assigning traits to values:
Firstly, it pretty much destroys traits as traits and makes them each into skills/characteristics. Not necessarily a bad thing - it would even simplify some areas of code. But there are advantages to having some attributes as binary values. I can't imagine anyone being 25% an asassin, for instance. Or 75% virgin for that matter.
Second point is that I'm not sure how much use this is going to be. Boobs, for instance are going to tend to be 0% 50% or 100%, basically because people think of these things in extremes.
So my suggestion is that we keep the trait system as it is. That said, if anyone can make a compelling case for promoting a trait to a characteristic, I'd be willing to consider the change. But I think I'd prefer to do this on a case-by-case basis.
I don't think it would work for most of the traits, but there are some that might (boobs, elegant, charming, great figure - to name a few, some would require additional stats in order to work).
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I have a question. What would this add to the game? It seems it just gives traits..... numbers, without actually changing anything. Would having 25% boobs give more looks then 20%? As its been presented now this just... looks like its pointless' cousin once removed. Besides, I do NOT want to go through all 50+ girls I've made and try to judge their breast % by a bunch of pictures that all have different sizes.
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It's just a suggestion, and it goes along with the idea of expanding stats. I understand that you don't want to go back and adjust a ton of girls you made - that's fine, no one is asking you to. This is all just in theory right now, but the only reasonable way to implement it would require legacy handling of girls that don't have the new stats in their XML files, so you don't have to make a single change at all.
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The traits are at their best when they are flavorful and descriptive, and at their least interesting when they are almost entirely redundant with a stat. The biggest offender is "Charismatic", and I'm not even talking about the bonus it gives. There might as well be a "Beautiful" trait. If a girl's charismatic, give her a high charisma stat, you know? To a lesser degree, other traits such as "Charming", "Tough", "Fragile", "Fleet of Foot" and "Strong Magic" seem to fall in the same category. I mean, is there really a difference between being "Fragile" and having extremely low constitution? And if there is, why? If a girl with 100 Constitution acquires "Fragile", does it really mean she's become fragile, or is she just not as tough as she used to be?
It seems to me that these traits would be better used as indicators than modifiers. If a girl has over 70 Charisma (or any arbitrary number that seems appropriate), she would get the Charismatic trait, only the trait itself wouldn't do anything, it'd just be there to tell you the girl has high charisma without straight up shoving a number in your face.
On the other hand, traits like "Elegant", "Good kisser", "Long legs", "Small scars", "Clumsy", "Cool person" and "Nerd" are wonderful, because they're important and flavorful details, or stuff that doesn't need to (or can't) be defined in terms of numbers. And the fact that they modify stats is sensible. I mean, if a girl has Horrific Scars, and I remove these scars during the game, it's entirely logical that she gets those 5 points of Beauty back, and on top of that there's a strong role-play element involved. So these traits are basically all advantage and, in my opinion, fine as they are. (Though their specific effects could probably do with some slight rebalancing in certain cases.)
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I like the idea of certain traits being more flags than actual bonuses, especially for the stats like charisma that we can't see in game. If a "Breast Size" stat were introduced eventually, the current Breast Size traits could then function as flags for that, as well. Hell, it wouldn't even need to be a realistic number, just leave it from 0 to 100 and it would still work fine. Only issue would be where to draw the lines between "Small Boobs", normal-sized ones, "Big Boobs", and "Abnormally Large Boobs".
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Hmmm...I could see something like that, where the trait becomes more of a flag than anything else. Perhaps they could function similar to fetishes, only be trigger by stat levels instead of the current trait system?
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The traits are at their best when they are flavorful and descriptive, and at their least interesting when they are almost entirely redundant with a stat. The biggest offender is "Charismatic", and I'm not even talking about the bonus it gives. There might as well be a "Beautiful" trait. If a girl's charismatic, give her a high charisma stat, you know? To a lesser degree, other traits such as "Charming", "Tough", "Fragile", "Fleet of Foot" and "Strong Magic" seem to fall in the same category. I mean, is there really a difference between being "Fragile" and having extremely low constitution? And if there is, why? If a girl with 100 Constitution acquires "Fragile", does it really mean she's become fragile, or is she just not as tough as she used to be?
It seems to me that these traits would be better used as indicators than modifiers. If a girl has over 70 Charisma (or any arbitrary number that seems appropriate), she would get the Charismatic trait, only the trait itself wouldn't do anything, it'd just be there to tell you the girl has high charisma without straight up shoving a number in your face.
On the other hand, traits like "Elegant", "Good kisser", "Long legs", "Small scars", "Clumsy", "Cool person" and "Nerd" are wonderful, because they're important and flavorful details, or stuff that doesn't need to (or can't) be defined in terms of numbers. And the fact that they modify stats is sensible. I mean, if a girl has Horrific Scars, and I remove these scars during the game, it's entirely logical that she gets those 5 points of Beauty back, and on top of that there's a strong role-play element involved. So these traits are basically all advantage and, in my opinion, fine as they are. (Though their specific effects could probably do with some slight rebalancing in certain cases.)
1. there is a charisma stat ;3
2. You could argue, with slightly varying levels of credibility, that every stat should fall on one side or the other. I would go into a blow by blow account of why all your examples should reversed, just to prove this point, but that would be tedious and pointless.I will instead give you a couple examples
a Charismatic, a person with an oddly drawing personality that people seem to flock to, you can't train this sorta leadership people! (change the flavor text around and you can no longer describe it with numbers, see?)
b. Nerd = High intelligence stat (not so unique and descriptive all on its own now, is it?)
c. Clumsy = very low agility stat ( ^^ see above snarky comment)
as you can see, whether or not every single stat could or couldn't be described in numbers, is solely limited by your preferences and imagination. Thus, if you stat-ified one trait, you'd have to do them all.
ninja edit: now that I think about it..... I wouldn't mind having every trait have a stat..... so long as there's ways to increase/decrease them all, you could have totally customizable girls. But all the work I'd have to do on existing girls T_T
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I think LS has made the best argument, here. I understand how much redoing some of these girls would suck, but some of the traits are really atrocious. Still, I think my original point remains, which is that this is far from an urgent action to take, and at this point waiting for a couple more updates wouldn't make a difference either way. There are better things to focus on for the next month or two.
In a completely unrelated point, I'm apparently an epic typist whilst drunk. Huh.
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When I originally started this topic I had written down that I wanted every trait to be based on a stat. I quickly realized that wasn't going to be possible, as well as that would limit the diversity of the traits.
Some people mentioned using traits as flags for certain stats, which I think is all well and good, but I still believe traits should confer a bonus or penalty and be meaningful.
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I'll go back to the boobies traits... cause I like boobies. :P
Say a girl had few points into the breasts stat. She would end up with the "Small Boobs" trait. Well, what does the "Small Boobs" trait offer? We could say that it's tagged as a fetish and she'll earn a bonus for her customers who like that fetish.
Now let's say we had a girl who's breast stat earned her the "Big Boobs" trait. Would that be a fetish, or something pretty common in what customers are after? Instead of being a fetish, maybe it instead adds to her "Looks" stat.
Next we come to the girl who's been blessed (or cursed) with "Abnormally Large Boobs" as it's currently called. Well, that's certainly a fetish, but does it improve her looks? Perhaps her big titties are a pain in the neck, and the trait decreases her Agility, while also fulfilling a fetish.
Finally we come to the girl with the breast stat somewhere between small and big... Normal Boobs. Is that a trait? Why would someone get a bonus or a penalty for being normal? Here there really isn't a reason to apply a trait... her tits go unnoticed. (My apologies to all the ladies out there with normal boobs, I still wuv you!)
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Now then let's go back to the girl with the "Big Boobs" trait for a minute. She's got just the right size breasts to earn her this trait. As it so happens, she has enough points in the "Looks" department from items, other traits and her base stats, that her +looks bonus from her "Big Boobs" traits, pushes her "Looks" stat to a whole new plateau earning her the "Great Figure" trait, which increases her Charisma stat helping her to attract more customers.
That is what I mean by traits being affected by stats, and those traits in-turn affecting other stats.
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One thing that always bugged me was the Adventurer and Assassin traits. Two traits that basically do the same thing, (+combat skills/stats) and that I've seen, multiple times, both of them on the same girl.
But when we think of the two, they are completely different kinds of people, who happen to share similar abilities. But while an adventurer may seek out battle, they do it for completely different reasons than an assassin. So how do we differentiate the two, while keeping their core ideals?
Let's say that both traits require a certain amount of points in combat stats, whether it be Magic Ability, Combat Ability, a Combination of the two, or perhaps more appropriate an average of the two. (Allowing both mages and adventurers to have the traits without worry of the other ability.)
So they both require x number of points, how do we keep them seperated? Well, we have two other stats we can look at here, Obedience and Spirit. Until someone clarifies what Spirit actually is, I'll use it as a substitute for Morality. It's fairly obvious, that a divide in Morality would separate the two traits, a murderer of people see's things a bit differently than someone who see's conflict for treasure and excitement. Even if we ignored the Spirit stat and stuck with just Obedience, is an Assassin going to be loyal to a lowly brothel owner? Perhaps they might, but for simplicity's sake, let's say they won't for now.
We've just separated those two traits, based on stats that are already in the game. Even so, we could add a new stat that would be more relevant to good vs evil, if Spirit wasn't in fact that stat already, which is an assumption on my part.
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This brings us to the caveat about moving all the traits to be based on stats. Changing every single trait to be stat based can quickly lead to the creation of too many frivolous stats. Already there are 32 stats (including skills) that are part of the character editor, there are also other stats like "Looks" and "Pregnancy" as well.
Any trait that would be modified to be stat based, and any stat that would be created to accommodate this should be weighed on it's own merits and what synergies it would provide to other stats and traits.
For this I'm going to give one last example...
Say there was in fact a "Morality" stat, and say we had a girl who was tagged with the "Not Human" trait. Also for the sake of argument she did not have the "Cat Girl" or "Construct" trait. She instead, was marked with the "Demon" trait. And furthermore the "Demon" trait happens to confer a penalty of -100 to the "Morality" stat.
What happens to her if over the course of the game she gets her "Morality" stat to Zero? (Assuming a -100 to 100 value range for the "Morality" stat.) Does she remain a demon? What if she stays a demon until her "Morality" stat reaches 50, where upon an event notification reaches the player and she is transformed into an Angel, removing her "Demon" trait and replacing it with the "Angel" trait.
Using that same method, we could turn our Assassins into Adventurers and vis versa. And with enough prodding turn our Angel back into a Demon.
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Right now there is no "Angel" trait, nor a "Morality" stat. And some traits are truely unique to their own set of circumstances, like "Not Human," "Sterile" & "One Eye." Others are conflicting with stats of their own. Does the "Lesbian" trait affect the "Lesbian Sex" skill, or should the skill, when high enough, apply the trait?
Some people have pointed out that some traits are redundant, and some are so unique unto themselves they could not be stat based.
This is why I removed the wording that suggested that all traits should be stat based.
I'm going to steal some wording from a few games here... but what if we start first by looking at the traits and when they would occur.
Start by separating traits into Common, Uncommon, Rare and Unique. ;)
Common traits would be the ones to be most reasonably affected by stats.
Uncommon traits would occur when a girl meets certain requirements such as giving birth, or being a virgin.
Rare traits would be those that affect few girls, and not always stat dependent. such as being a "Demon" or having "Scars." Traits which themselves are mutable with time and effort, and perhaps a bit of coin.
Unique Traits would be perminate marks upon a girl, that would be defined in her character profile, such as "Not Human" or "Construct."
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There are already a lot of traits and stats in the game. And I can understand why the thought of adding more, or changing their nature would not appeal to some people. But I would also like to point out that 1.30 is going to bring some drastic changes to Jobs in this game. In my opinion from what I've read on the dev forums, there will be far too many jobs, but I will reserve judgment until after the new version is released.
But I also believe, work on this game isn't going to stop with 1.30, and that there will be a 1.40 and even a 1.50. The more planning and work that goes on with this game, the better and better it will become.
Finally I apologize if anyone here feels like I'm stepping on anyone's toes with the changes I've proposed here.
Thank You.
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I've always assumed that "Spirit" referred to the girl's "Fighting Spirit", a measure of how willing she was to put up with your shit (High Spirit = "FUCK YOU!"), and it interacted with Obedience (and whether or not she's a slave) to determine a girl's Rebelliousness.
Mana, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have much impact at all in game. In fact, I've no freaking clue what it even does, other than sit there. Would it be possible to alter Mana so it functioned more like a Morality stat?
Also, it's possible to have high intelligence and not be a nerd. I think. I dunno, to me nerd is pretty much synonymous with "gamer".
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1. Spirit is.... for lack of a better word, self-confidence, it acts with several other factors to create rebel, as well as a girls decisions such as running away, etc.
2. Mana affects a girls fights, I think, but since combat is resolved behind the scenes, No ones really sure how it comes into play.
3. I don't think its that simple to change a person from being one thing to another, I know in my previous post I said <3 totally customizable girls, but that was just a joke/passing fancy. You don't stop being an assassin and having that set of skills just because you find a moral center, or because your combat stats are slightly different. And you don't become an angel or demon just because you're a good or bad person, that's ridiculous, and it cheapens the traits. Radically changing who and what a girl is just because a player fucked around with her stats is.... for lack of a better word, total bullcrap. A few traits this might make sense, but take it too far and suddenly unique girls aren't so unique, just a collection of different pictures.
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1) There's already a confidence stat, though. Hmm...should probably look into maybe re-naming some of the stats so they're more self-explanatory.
2) Yeah, see, no one's really sure. Kinda sucks, but I'm sure once 1.30 is out, we can work on refining some things.
3) Yeah, I agree with you there. If "Not Human" or "Construct" would be considered "Unique Traits" then why not "Demon"? Although, with the current item set, there are ways to remove both.
Basically, in order to really get into the meat of the game, we need to wait and see what 1.30 does to it. Unless it's already been decided and detailed in the Development section, in which case ignore me. I don't venture into that section; it's all way over my head. :(
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Radically changing who and what a girl is just because a player fucked around with her stats is.... for lack of a better word, total bullcrap. A few traits this might make sense, but take it too far and suddenly unique girls aren't so unique, just a collection of different pictures.
Really? Because with all the girls that come with the game right now (Not including player-created expansions), I feel that only one of them is Unique, and that would be Astaroth, and only because she's the only girl that is sterile.
All the other girls, are essentially the same girl just with different pictures. Some are more rebelious, sure, but they can easily be tamed. And because of the random girls, there are countless other demons, and cat-girls littering my brothels.
This is a far different issue than basing traits on stats and vis versa, this is a problem with over-population, and allowing the player to do whatever he wants to any girl, either through actions or items.
Basically, in order to really get into the meat of the game, we need to wait and see what 1.30 does to it. Unless it's already been decided and detailed in the Development section, in which case ignore me. I don't venture into that section; it's all way over my head. :(
AFAIK, 1.30 is dedicated to mainly increasing the amount of jobs in the game for girls to perform. Along with a with other tweaks to the way the game handles the system.
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3. You don't stop being an assassin and having that set of skills just because you find a moral center, or because your combat stats are slightly different. And you don't become an angel or demon just because you're a good or bad person
Exactly.
The fact is we use traits in a number of different ways. Some of them are just markers for fetishes; They get you more trade from a certain sort of customer; Some of them give bonuses to stats; many of them have a number of bonuses to various probability checks behind the scenes; some are purely descriptive and/or for roleplay purposes, and most are some combination of the above.
Consequently, I'm somewhat loathe make them all consistent. I think we'd end up having to re-invent traits under a new name to take the place of the missing functionality.
That said, a trait reworking has been on the cards for a while now. I have plans for an XML trait definition file where you can create your own traits or rework existing ones. When that happens, I'm going to need to review a lot of existing traits with a view to simplifying and consolidating the trait code. So one way or another, most of the concerns raised in this thread should be addressed (at least addressable) at that time.
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About mana: yes, it has an effect on combat, and a few other things as well. There are a lot of interesting mechanics behind the scenes which I'd like to make a little bit more visible. Although I must admit, I am slightly worried that if we expose too much of the hidden workings of the game, it'll stop being lifelike and become purely mechanical. Still, I think we have a ways to go before we have to worry about that.
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About mana: yes, it has an effect on combat, and a few other things as well.
Holy crap it does? The relaxers in my item pack restore a small amount of mana as a side effect, but now that I know there's an actual point to it I just might put in some dedicated items. Neat!
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Traits are important for fluff and balancing at the moment, so I'm not sure the OP's suggestion would work out very well. While I can understand the appeal of random girls gaining new traits as they progress, unique girls are generally meant to be fixed.
Leaving items as a way for players to add and remove traits mid-game works just fine IMO. Customizable traits would be awesome though.
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Traits are important for fluff and balancing at the moment, so I'm not sure the OP's suggestion would work out very well. While I can understand the appeal of random girls gaining new traits as they progress, unique girls are generally meant to be fixed.
Truth be told, I'd rather see all the random girls removed from the game. ???
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Truth be told, I'd rather see all the random girls removed from the game. ???
I recall someone else wanting all the uniques removed lol. I'm sure the game could be played without the uniques, but i'm not so sure about the random girls.
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The game would crash at certain points if you removed all the random girls, but if you were somehow lucky enough to not run into any of those situations (highly unlikely), you could play without them. I don't like them either, but I find it's much easier to ignore them completely than to try to remove them.
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Maybe the thing to do would be to separate out distribution of the game and content. That way we could have variations on the standard girls. In fact the notion of standard girls would largely cease to exists.
I would make debugging some problems that much harder, though.
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That would help with players who don't want unique girls, but I don't really see much value beyond that. It's easy enough to customize both which girls you have and what their stats are as is, and add-on content vastly outweighs the girls that come with the game anyway, so there isn't much in the way of "standard girls" in the current system.
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Truth be told, I'd rather see all the random girls removed from the game. ???
Eh, why? They're the most sensible solution for people's daughters, and they're an option to play the game for those who find constantly having to use Take a Walk annoying. If you find the default random girl selection lacking (it is, but it wasn't meant to be more something to get things started), there are numerous random girl add-ons at this point. I also like turning well made packs of unique characters I don't care for into randoms. At this point I have ~20 different random templates, so it's actually rather interesting to see what I'm going to get.
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Eh, why? They're the most sensible solution for people's daughters, and they're an option to play the game for those who find constantly having to use Take a Walk annoying. If you find the default random girl selection lacking (it is, but it wasn't meant to be more something to get things started), there are numerous random girl add-ons at this point. I also like turning well made packs of unique characters I don't care for into randoms. At this point I have ~20 different random templates, so it's actually rather interesting to see what I'm going to get.
I suppose it is each person's personal preference. I only play with the girls that come with the game, I'm well aware that there are many expansion packs out there for more girls or items, but I try to play the game as it is initially presented to everyone.
To me, the random girls always seemed as an after-thought to get more content into the game, even if that may not be the case. I realize that without the random girls, children may not be as feasible in the game but the way it is now, with time having no relevance, children seem more acceptable.
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Someone plays this game WITHOUT addons?! I feel sorry for you, default girls are.... eh.
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Truth be told, I'd rather see all the random girls removed from the game. ???
Personally, I dislike unique girls.
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Someone plays this game WITHOUT addons?! I feel sorry for you, default girls are.... eh.
Oh I agree, some of the default girls are quite, "eh..." ;)
But also consider that many people who download and play the game aren't going to be aware of all the mods for the game that are already out, nor the current forums, they'll just have the core game. I actually don't know if this game has a website besides these forums! ???
The current readme.html doesn't even link to the current forums, nor does the credits list have an e-mail to contact the authors. The only e-mail I can find is after you click the PayPal donate button.
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That would help with players who don't want unique girls, but I don't really see much value beyond that.
- It'd help with the people who don't like random girls
- It would help with the people who don't like unique girls.
- It would help with the people who'd just as soon not get (and keep getting) loli content.
- And will it probably help with other personal preference issues that just haven't been raised yet.
Also, you wouldn't need to keep downloading the girls for each full release
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I assumed that randoms were required for the game to run, so even those who don't use them still need them. I'd think the game would require a great deal of reworking to eliminate the need for them. Your other points are quite valid, though. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if that's how the game is distributed in the future.
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Currently, I think they are, if only for cases when there is no unique girl available.
Still, it could be done. Probably have to disable daughters, abduction and taking family members in lieu of payment in such cases though. At least until I get around to improving the XML that specifies where girls can be found.
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Instead of disabling it outright, just check to see if a girl is available first, then if one isn't, pursue an alternative resolution (children are automatically male, deadbeat customer doesn't have any daughters, kidnapping attempt fails, etc.). It will still be useful code even after you implement the changes to the XML format, as players could still run out of girls from one of the pools when playing without randoms.