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Feedback => Bugs and Game balancing => Topic started by: fg109 on October 22, 2009, 10:09:10 PM
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I've just tried playing it for 10 minutes and these are the bugs I noticed:
-Brothel name is empty after input
-Brothel pic doesn't show until restarting program and loading save
-Cheat mode doesn't work (probably because save is " .gam", have to keep renaming saves to Test.* to get it to work)
-You can torture someone with the torture button and then talk to them 5 times vs. torture via the talk button and then talking another 4 times
-Game still crashes if you reload and try to go to girl management or details screen after seeing it
-Weird issue with using up down arrow keys to scroll list when revisiting slave market after buying slave
-About the new talk menu, I think with so many options, it should have a "go back to previous menu" as a choice
-Also, if I use talk menu to try and torture someone I've already tortured, it uses up the amount of times I can talk per day, which I think should be changed
-The fetishes clumsy and nervous don't seem to belong to a fetish category when I click "more details"
-Quiet girls and Witch girls seem unbalanced now because they almost always have 100% in looks, have more fetishes and come with less rebelliousness than sexy and horny girls
EDIT: The first couple issues were fixed by the hotfix. I guess I downloaded the update right before you put that up.
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I think girls were being paid the total amount they'd made that day for each successive customer, earning thousands per day without great stats. It'd go, say, 80-160-240-320 and say she earned 320 total, but then it'd give me 800 for that.
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I think there's something wrong with the talk functions. When I chat with a girl about general stuff, her rebelliousness actually goes up. I tried talking with a slave bought fresh from the slave market ~70 times and then when I asked her for her feelings, she said she was deeply in love with me, but she found me a bit scary and she also hated me.
So instead of lowering PCHate and PCFear, it actually raises it. I changed the numbers in the script to -2 and now it seems to lower it, or at least their rebelliousness is going down. I think this might be the case with the other talk functions too.
EDIT: Ok, I've found that it isn't anything wrong with the script, it's something wrong with the tough trait. The girl I was talking about had the tough trait. When I tried to duplicate this with another girl without this trait, it worked fine.
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Experience seems to be getting stuck at 100 again.
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These are all with Hotfix 2 applied:
Just had a slave market hang Two, now. Second time I arrow key scrolled through the slaves looking at looks%. When I got to the bottom, nothing was selected. Then I tried to leave, and couldn't. In fact this happens every time: scroll off the bottom of the list and the game hangs.. You're all right as long as you stay inside the list, but accidentally go down at the list and and hangggggg....
It doesn't like it if you try and scroll off the top, either.
I think I'd like an "Ask, but don't take 'no' for an answer" type option for the brothel interactions. Ask for sex, but if she says no, force her. Having refusals take zero time could work as well
Come to think of it, I'd like an "ask, then force" option for the dungeon, as well. My style isn't so much as "love" or "fear" as "the iron hand in the velvet glove".
The "talk to" options are replacing "comfort", I take it? There's not an obvious "try and cheer her up" option.
Virgins retain their virginity after being raped.
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The defeated rival script is still causing the game to lock up.
Also, I got that on the second week of a fresh game... seems a bit early for a rival to already be defeated.
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if you press the up arrow on the keyboard while the first item in a listbox is selected, the game crashes. The up and down arrows otherwise work fine, it's just when you're at the top of the list and arrow up again. I duplicated this in the Girl Management screen and Turn Summary screen.
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The slave market girls are a lot prettier this time around. I'm having no problems filling out a brothel with 95-100% lookers
Happiness management seems to be taking a lot more effort this time around. Previously, if I could get their happiness to about 120% or so, they'd be stable until something happened to drop that. Now, presumably as a result of the "no negative happiness" fix, I seem to be constantly feeding chocolates to my girls.
Also, (and I realise this is a bit late) but I didn't mind the negative unhappiness that much, although it would have been useful to see the actual number.
I have a happiness 98% girl who is "happy" and a happiness 80% girl who is "joyful". Clearly there are hidden variables at work here, but that seems a bit counter-intuitive.
Having to drip feed the girls with chocolate is made worse by the fact that list elements in the shop de-select themselves after you buy. So I can't just select chocolate and spam the arrow button: I need to re-select it for each purchase. So it would be nice to keep the same element selected, and similarly, it would be nice if the selection in the girls inventory moved to the next item when you click "use".
I'm also a little surprised that when I ask a girl with -22% rebellion to lie down and spread 'em (old romantic that I am), I'm getting "no" back. With that degree of submission, the answer I'd expect would be "yes sir! how wide sir?"
The slave market problem with scrolling off the ends of the list isn't restricted to the slave market: you can get it scrolling through the girls in the dungeon. In fact, as fg109 suggested, I suspect it happens for any list box
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Regular sex via talk doesn't affect virgin status, probably same as rape that DocClox mentioned. Pregnancy works though, I was able to make one pregnant through it.
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I agree that rivals are losing too fast. I've escorted 2 out of the city and it hasn't even been turn 20 yet (since I haven't been attacked).
I tried all the talk interactions in girl management and dungeon, and none of them affect virgin status.
There seems to be something wrong with the traits. Tough trait seems to give more experience and quick learner does nothing. My tough trait girls are getting tired faster than the other ones.
Tough/construct trait girls (such as Kos-Mos) don't get full item effects. This seems to have been a problem with the other versions but never been addressed. Kos-Mos only gets 4% recovery with anything, even a super cream of healing that's supposed to give 100% recovery. She only recovers 4% per shift of rest. Tough girls recover 18% per shift, while normal girls recover 20%. Tough girls seem to get the full item effects -2%.
I've found something else wrong with the Tough trait. Or at least if it's intended, it doesn't seem like a very good change. In an earlier post, I said that there was something wrong with the script that causes PCHate and PCFear to rise when chatting to girls. I was wrong, this only happens to girls with the Tough trait. I've also found that even if I rest these girls and keep them at high accommodations, after freeing them from slave status, their PCHate and PCFear stats still rise every turn.
Also, to add on to Tyrian's post, this effect seems to carry on to the next shift. So a girl with 8 customers in the day and 8 customers during night could earn 1500+ on just the last customer.
There's still a bug where when you torture someone, a message pops up saying she gains the Masochist trait even though she already has it.
The Fragile trait doesn't seem to be working.
For some reason, I got disguised slave band in my inventory even though I haven't sent anyone into the catacombs. This happened throughout 3 games.
Some traits are gained or lost through equipping items. For example, equipping and then un-equipping a Ring of Orgasm (gives fast orgasms trait) on someone already with the trait, will end up with the trait disappearing. Similarly, when I equip and then un-equip custom items that remove traits, the traits that are supposed to be removed show up.
In the turn summary for gangs, the numbers are incorrect. It might say you lost 7 men but when you check, you see that you actually lost 13.
The description for anal sex in the script editor says it handles pregnancy. There should be no pregnancies from anal sex.
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The trait 'Incorporated' automaticly make the girl ask for 0 gold. Tested on CC and Kaguya, both ask for 0 gold. After I equip them with a item I made that removes Incorporated, both girl start asking for money.
Also, 'Constructed' trait seems to limit a girls money to 4 dollars... This is only tested on Kos Mos so I'm not sure if it's just her or the whole constructed trait.
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Even with group sex banned it still seems to happen occasionally
It seems Im getting a crazy amount of gold per customer (400-1000) for no apparent reason
Edit: ^^^^ amount increases after each customer (100,300,400,600,1000...ect...)
Typo: (girl) liked her female customers cunt until she came. Liked = licked
(sometimes during summary text): experiance = inexperience
the customer (didn't) enjoy(ed) it. The should be caps
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Girls don't age with the new year. They stay 18 forever. Now that I think about it, all my slaves seem to be 18.
I used the Potion of Frontal Growth to add Big Boobs trait to a girl. When I check "More Details" it doesn't show up as a fetish category. It shows up on girls that already come with the trait though. This is probably the case for all traits that a girl gains.
I'm not sure if it's intended this way, but only the "make love" option in the talk interaction gives experience. None of the other actions (anal, BDSM, etc.) do.
Sex through the talk interaction should probably use up protect potions if the Anti-Preg option is checked. Right now, it doesn't use them.
I think the "Add 5 rooms" button should have a confirmation dialogue. It should ask you "Spend 5000 for 5 more rooms?" or else tell you that you've added the rooms. I clicked it a couple times because I thought my clicks weren't registering since it looked like nothing changed.
I just noticed that the game doesn't auto-save when you click "Next Week" from the Turn Summary screen. I don't know if it's always been this way and I just noticed it.
My game keeps crashing whenever I click "Next Week" once I hit Day 3 Month 9 Year 1210. I've tried it multiple times, even on a save from all the way back to month 3. I'm not sure if this is why I'm crashing, but my first daughter should be showing up at the dungeon soon, possibly on the next turn.
And I definitely am getting some rare items somehow even though all my gangs are set to guard and all I do is hit next week 30 times in a row.
EDIT: OK, I just started 2 new games. The first one I just hit next week and skipped through everything. Made it past Day 3 Month 9 Year 1210. The second one I got a girl pregnant in the first week. Then I skipped through everything and it crashed when I clicked next week on Day 3 Month 9 1210. If my math is right, that means it crashes every time I try to go into the 87th week, which I'm assuming is when my daughter should show up.
By the way, throughout all this skipping I also got some rare items somehow.
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yeah gold is snowballing for each customer so one girl can produce like 3000 gold a shift XD first customer will be 120 but the next one, instead of also being 120 is 240, and it keeps adding on, although the summary still only says she made 680 total when the sessions and total is actually like 3k. also when a girl is at make health and high love and low hate and fear, could you make rebel go down by like 10 each day? cause this girl adores me and does any sex act I ask but remains at like 90 rebel and won't work XD and I dun want to torture her to get it down and even extravagant gifts don't seem to work.
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From what I can tell, rebelliousness is calculated from these stats:
Obedience
Confidence
Spirit
PCLove
PCHate
PCFear
Obedience, PCLove, and PCFear lowers rebelliousness. All the other stats raise it.
Torture raises obedience, PCHate, and PCFear while lowering everything else. Forcing a girl to do stuff seems to do the same thing, just not with not as large an effect. I'm not quite sure what effect scolding has. Almost all the other interactions should do things like lowering PCHate and PCFear while raising PCLove.
If your girl is totally in love with you (max PCLove) and doesn't hate or fear you at all (0 PCHate and PCFear), then the only reasons I can think of for why she has such high rebelliousness is that she must have extremely high stats in Confidence and Spirit. So unless you torture/force her, you have to get an item that lowers confidence and spirit.
These traits also affect rebelliousness:
Iron Will +20 rebelliousness
Fearless +10 rebelliousness (and PCFear is always 0 I think)
Manly +6 rebelliousness
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which is why I made the suggestion, you can't really get her rebel down outside of torture in a situation like that... so you're fucked if you're being a good guy.... you either let her take up space or fire/sell her, or make an item that lowers rebel. but that seems cheap to me, one should not simply buy your way out of all problems. This problem mostly comes up with the random demon G2 or whatever girls. they have high starting rebel, and high rebel stats and traits usually, so outside of torture it is very hard to get it down by even one point.
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I noticed that the "ask > Make love" option seems to lower the girl's opinion and raise her fear of the player. Seems a bit odd.
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A few minor things with randomization from 1.27, though I suspect they're still around in 1.28.
-If multiple girls give birth in the same brothel on the same day, the gender of the children will all be the same.
-If you have several custom girls set to 'is a slave', the order they appear in the Slave Market is fixed. Girl 1 will appear first, then girl 2 the next day after you buy her, etc.
I can confirm the Tough trait is causing unintended trouble as well.
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Somehow, raping girls in the dungeon is not riding them of their virginity.
Quite the strong himen, I'd say. XD
I also couldn't get any of them pregnant, but I'm not sure if, since they are still virgins means the sex didn't count.
(Well, a pregnant virgin would sound... absurd, at least...)
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They can become pregnant with your rape in the dungeon... but they still remain a virgin. Makes you feel a little godlike.
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Still have the bug where I can't take Jessica Albert's gold away from her. It says I take it, but afterwards she has the gold, I don't have the gold, and she's half dead from the fight.
Also, she fights even with a rebellion of -30%. I'd be expecting a bit more submissiveness by that stage...
Changing tack: should we not be able to stave off the effects of drug withdrawal by giving the girls the drugs they need? I've got a girl with a Fairy Dust habit, but there's no cure available right now. I'd like to be able to feed her dust to keep her happy until I can buy a cure.
Also, given that they're already hooked on the stuff, should they not be happy to get the drug? Or at least not be unhappy with the gift?
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The problem is Merciless completely overrides rebelliousness in any situation where the game checks for it. It doesn't matter how broken a girl is, if she's Merciless she will attack if you try to take her money or brand her. Having an extremely low rebelliousness should override the Merciless check at some point, or even cause the trait to be removed entirely.
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What could work would be to downgrade it to something a bit less overwhelming, like say sadist. Then she could still be good for S&M games with the clients, but she'd stop fighting to the death every time the player needed to confiscate her pocket money.
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not a bug but maybe nice info
coloring girls in Girl List, which have both times resting and don't tired out and low on health
think it should be other color than red, maybe blue
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@Valfa: Yeah, multiple warning colors are already planned.
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Found a weird bug. Most of the brothels have two requirements to purchase - the cash and a certain number of controlled business. The last brothel however's a bit weird, if you have enough cash but not enough businesses it'll let you buy it but you won't actually get it. Try to buy it again and all your brothels except the first one will disappear.
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You do get the last brothel, they disappear only from your town screen. If you use the back/next buttons to navigate between brothels, you will find they are all there - including the last one.
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My game keeps crashing whenever I click "Next Week" once I hit Day 3 Month 9 Year 1210. I've tried it multiple times, even on a save from all the way back to month 3. I'm not sure if this is why I'm crashing, but my first daughter should be showing up at the dungeon soon, possibly on the next turn.
Im getting the same bug. After a bit of playing around with the savegame's *.gam file I found that the crash is triggered by the child's 50 week timer. I have reproduced it in three different games now. Including the test mode.
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255 255
0
0
95 95 0
0 49
0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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you can see the line with 0 49 it starts at 0 0 until she gives birth then it adds 1 every week, and will not go past 49 without crashing. If I set it back to a lower number the game will keep working until it reaches 49 again. Also if I set it to 50 the game will keep working, but there is never any daughter added.
So whatever is supposed to run on week 50 is crashing the game.
I'm running WinXP with all updates and service packs with a clean install of WHM upgraded to 1.28 hotfix 2
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Still getting girls stuck at 13 rebellion. Seems to be when they get tortured a lot, and often coincides with them getting the Masochist trait.
The thirteen problem seems to be infectious, too. Once one girl gets it, the girl underneath gets it, and then the one beneath her. 'tis most passing strange...
But if I let them out and feed the chocolate to cheer them up, the rebellion level does indeed drop.
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I dunno if anyone has noticed but when I created an item that adds bunch of traits to a girl (including Incorporial) it seems some girls will get the Incorporial trait but others dont.
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Not a bug, in point of fact, just an aesthetic suggestion. On the supplies/upgrades screen, if you align the text for the types of sex allowed in brothels on the right instead of left, the check boxes should line up and make things look a bit tidier.