Stage Shows And Casinos

[DocClox]

Been thinking about gambling halls, and the possibility of opening casinos, or at least buildings that were more casino than brothel. This is just kicking ideas around at the moment.

Basic idea is to expand on the stripper bar idea slightly. In fact, separate the strip bar into three components: A stage, a bar and a restaurant. Make all three upgradable so you can have various levels of swank . We could even have  size and swankiness as separate upgrade elements, so you could have vast fleapit theaters doing bawdy vaudeville routines in the slums, or tiny exclusive revue bars where the food is excellent and the prices can cause cardiac arrest in an ox at one hundred paces.

Having done that, you could have acts other than strippers. Dancing girls that keep their clothes on would be the obvious ones, but also singers and comics. I'm thinking Las Vegas here. Probably have a limited number of non-girl entertainers (or a limited number of good ones) and have the rival organizations compete for control of them. So you could get quests and events to secure the contract for a good entertainer.

We'd also need a bit finer tuning over which girl does what in the bar and casino. Make bargirl, waitress, dancer and cook as proper occupations. That way you could get the good dancers on stage, the plain looking girls working kitchen and possibly bar, medium pretty ones waiting on customers, smart ones playing croupier (!) and the knockouts dancing. And possibly singing - we're going to need some more skills if we do this. Oh and the sexy ones can still peddle their assess, of course.

Pro: It gives the nice-guy players a bit more to do that doesn't involve rape and bloodshed
Con: It does move the focus of the game a little way away from the girls.

Thoughts?

[zodiac44]

Seeing as how I am of the impression that the game is too focused on the girls at the moment, I don't object to shifting a bit away.  I'd be concerned about the micromanagement levels required, but if we implement it well, then that should be alleviated.

[Savagefrog]

Yes it would be nice to have the girls do other things. I really like the idea of girls of different looks doing different jobs. Really the only people that don't care if a plain jane is stripping are the totally drunk ones.

[Mehzerz]

Not a bad idea. I would think of the Casino/Bar ect. as a front, more so than an actual business. If you could manage these to a minimum it'd be a nice change. However I suppose a "good" player wouldn't use these for a front while having explicit BDSM sessions in the back. They'd actually use it like it's supposed to be used.
While i'm on the topic of good players. I'd think some sex acts would give you some negative points but not many. Monster for instance.

[Bloodly]

Hmm.  Will the girls actually be PAID for this?  The oddest matter has been the fact that the Gambling Hall gives no money to the girls(It all goes to the Pool), and the fact that girls will refuse to work there, despite being the least objectionable thing you can possibly ask them to do.

[Command]

That would be a good idea. 
 
Like assigning tough girls to do guarding work (I bet you can easily find pictures of various girls doing that or beating the stuffing out of a to bit moron trying to steal from you)
 
You could have intelligance payout if you have games like Black Jack or Poker.  Girls who can count cards are more likely to win than ones that don't.
 
You could even have public theaters to promote your more liginimate buisnesses like Plays and short comadies (like in Sakura Wars). 
 
You can even hold races if you want.  Or maybe even get jobs that revolve in doing odd jobs that gives you a large amount of prestige but low income but income none the less.
 
You could even have cooking jobs to supply another type of income the girls could work in.
 
Or like the girls did in medival engeland.  Rich and powerful women were actually known kidnap guy's to have as a husband if they couldn't find one by normal means.  it happened supprisingly regularly.  There's an interesting thought have youself getting kidnapped in the game.
 
 

[exodia91]

I'd be careful, branch out too much and you have a bunch of pointless jobs that don't add anything. Keep it simple, and make sure there's a point and semi-unique positive/negative advantage to each job.

[Command]

or how about some jobs that are more like a waist of money if you don't have the stuff to make money from them.  Like employing several smugglers when you don't have some commodity to smuggle into or out of.  Normally you would need some sort of agreement with someone to get the comodities to smuggle.  With out it then it's like paying a bunch of guy's to just stand around and do nothing. 
 
 

[Wispowill]

I sort of like the idea of seperating out the jobs in a place

I think another change that should take place is to control the sex types like you do for brothels. I've thought it a bit strange that you could say no beast or group sex in brothels but had no control at the strip club. Seems like the club should follow the same rules as the brothel it's built onto.

[DocClox]

I think another change that should take place is to control the sex types like you do for brothels. I've thought it a bit strange that you could say no beast or group sex in brothels but had no control at the strip club. Seems like the club should follow the same rules as the brothel it's built onto.

That sounds like a bug, to me. If you say "no anal" at the brothel, it should apply to the strippers too, IMHO.

[letmein]

First off:  on the original suggestion, IIRC the long-awaited building update should add some of what you suggested.  Perhaps not all, but I'd like to see what we get from that, and test some of it, before making a whole lot of changes.

As for the strip bar thing, I know that's been mentioned before, and I thought it was a known bug.  necno may already be fixing it.

[DocClox]

Well, I'm not going to do it tomorrow in any case. Next big job is integrating necno's 1.30 code into the release branch. After that, as you say we'll see what's what.

And yeah, the strip bar thing may well have been mentioned before. Right now I'm trying to get as many bugs into our shiny new bug tracker (thanks Dagoth!) so we can tell what's new, what's old and what's supposed to be fixed. Otherwise, it's too easy to overlook things.

[highx9]

now that it comes out, it would be nice if we could get pics for that things, like stripping pics, or girls wearing a barmaid dress. Like if we could assign a pic to Strip1 or something like that

[Mehzerz]

Pictures that specific are not as easy to find as you may think. For some girls sure, but certainly not for all of them. You'll just have to deal with the fact that not everything will have specific images. Many will have defaults, and I don't see specific jobs really needing images to begin with.

[Midnight_Amratha]

i say, let the background images determine where you are and if you can find images to suit the place fine, otherwise just ignore it