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Game Discussion => General Discussion & Download => Topic started by: exodia91 on April 06, 2010, 04:50:20 AM
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http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/01/28/australia-bans-small-breasts-as-child-pornography/
I now understand Nec's innate fear of anything even implying Underage girls in the game. For Christ's sake man that is some godawful Moral policing.
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Perhaps this is a good time reopen the question of moving the loli content into a separate download pack?
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Presumably small breasted women taking photographs of themselves will now be guilty of creating simulated child pornography
what's next, outlawing sex?
what's the name of that sylvester stallone flick where, in the future, you get tickets for swearing and stuff?
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Judge Dredd sounds like the film, as for Australia and the law, I knew about this already and feel this and other things are taking "Won't some one think of the children" way to far.
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Demolition Man is the film he's thinking of.
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They must consider their plain girls as underage ones then. Just in case.
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You all are looking at this the wrong way. This is clearly Australia's attempt to breed more women with bigger breasts! :D
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You all are looking at this the wrong way. This is clearly Australia's attempt to breed more women with bigger breasts! :D
but where the hell am I supposed to get my simulated child pornography, then?
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They should put up more advertisements for breast implants.
Clearly.
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^that or banging your A cup wife will get your ass thrown in jail, whats next? its ok to F any girl with cup size bigger then A?
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Austrillia has had nutbars in charge for quite some time; it took them years to allow M rated games into the country and even then only under the Adult Only label. They've been making serious attempts to start filtering Internet access. It is genuinely terrifying that the population has not demanded their resignation for trying to turn the country into China.
Perhaps this is a good time reopen the question of moving the loli content into a separate download pack?
I have clear warnings on any of my packs that contain questionable characters. I don't think more than this is necessary, but if anyone wants to remove the links for off the boards I'll understand.
Still, small breasts = underage? WTF Australia. What next, looking at porn will = rape?
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What next, looking at porn will = rape?
Sure. It's raping with your eyes and your mind.
If you fap to porn then, god help you, 'cause the law will not!
Wait... Than a flat chested woman shall be considered minor for her whole life, then?
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I have clear warnings on any of my packs that contain questionable characters. I don't think more than this is necessary, but if anyone wants to remove the links for off the boards I'll understand.
I was thinking more of moving the loli girls bundled with the game proper into a separate pack. I'm quite happy that people should install whatever their taste, ethics and local legislation allow. It's just that having clear loli content in the game download poses a potential risk to anyone in Oz or the UK, and probably other places, too.
I know they can be removed, but they tend to come back again if you do a full upgrade.
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Yes i think a separate pack would be for the best since as it stands the small amount of small breasted women in the game makes it illegal in aus (although R+ rated games are technically illegal anyway). In addition they are trying to strongly push through compulsory ISP censoring of the Internet here, i doubt they will succeed as the backlash would be huge as it would essentially destroy the net in aus :D
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ROFL It's a mystery how people even try living in Australia, considering that half the native wildlife can and will kill you if given the chance and now you can't even watch porn in peace. Then again as a big boobs lover I might start consuming aussy porn if it's really flat chests free!
Yay! it might be a cool eugenics secret conspiracy, you bust everyone who even peaks an A-cup and throw them to jail, thus you prevent them from reproducing eventually increasing the population average cup size! Mwahhahahahaha! FTW!
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I'm much less concerned about the Internet censorship now, they call it a "mandatory Internet filtering" but I just found out that ISPs are not required to offer the service, but they must always offer an unfiltered service. Much less worried now..... and confused as to the whole point of it as it really will change nothing unless all ISPs jump on board so that they can just extra for unfiltered services :D.
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I've been wondering for some time whether to suggest making the loli content seperate from the main. Here in Virginia, USA, a man went to jail for his manga collection. (Not to be confused with an earlier case where someone had actual child porn as well as manga.) The lawyer argued that manga art wasn't real therefore no one was affected. The judge decided that the manga had "an appearance" of underage porn and therefore was punishable by law. I am not a fan of loli stuff, but have to think that using "an appearance of" as a standard seems to open up the law to potential abuse.
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I would have appealed to a higher court, since I believe the Supreme Court ruled that the ban on lolicon violates the constitution. Fucking backwards biased judges.
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well it's like that in canada too. if the person looks under 18 it's considered child porn, even if you know she's over 18, including manga. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors)
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Sending people to jail because they looked at a CARTOON that APPEARED to be under 18? Great to see the courts have their priorities in order.
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mh... my last known about the law in Germany whit this Things is: Cartoon is Art, and in Art nearby everything is allowed ^^''
we got other problems (Politikans who will just badge a big fucking "STOPP"-Sign on (rl-)Childpon Sites. A Blocker thats totaly Simply to ignore... they don't whant Delete the sites o_O because:"The Server are not in germany and in other Countrys, Like India it might be okay to fuck a Child" srsly... it is not! they just need a reason to get the wa free for the Censorship on the Internet ... the fist screamed for Censoring First Person Shooter pages, or other pages that be, in my eyes, are hamless >-<)
mh... okay ^^ i'm getting Offtopic i think...
fact: Lolicon in germany is in a little grey zone. Because it is "just" Art.
(sorry for this post ^^ just woke up... and don't want use Google translator o_O...)
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Heh had to sign up just to say this:
bold for emphasis:
CHECK THE SOURCES.
I uh, am currently an 'op' in the Sankakucomplex irc channel, because we had to run artefact (the site owner) out, he was banning everyone who said anything bad about his articles, and the banlist was approaching 90 people in two months
He makes roughly $10,000 USD a month off of the site ads; probably more now that he's sold out to funimation -- He does, and i've got logs of him saying this -- Purposely change the facts and use misleading post titles to increase the shock value, the more people who flock to his site from his sensationalist journalism the morem oney he gets, in addition to outright mistranslating japanese articles because he knows no one can read them
So yes, do not trust any article you see on sankaku complex without first checking the source material; and DEFINITELY do not make game decisions without doing so.
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While Indeed he certainly exaggerated in some parts, I Checked the sources and essentially it is correct. And Kyu, I'm not really surprised, CNN and major newsgroups do essentially the same thing and have been for decades, its nothing new. They misinterpret, exaggerate, and outright lie whenever it suits them. So I'd advise always check the sources on anything, be it newspaper,TV, or blog. Take everything with a grain of salt people.
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oh grate like crap internet and my job being under payed wasn't enough of a reason to move overseas now this
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Doesnt anyone think of the children? Ive got an answer to that. Pedophiles think of the children.
Im sure that in this mad world, they will get a majority on some senate or parliament somewhere, by campaigning for family values....
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Doesnt anyone think of the children? Ive got an answer to that. Pedophiles think of the children.
Im sure that in this mad world, they will get a majority on some senate or parliament somewhere, by campaigning for family values....
You mean the ones kissing hands and shaking babies?
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what's next, outlawing sex?
what's the name of that sylvester stallone flick where, in the future, you get tickets for swearing and stuff?
And Arnold Schwarzenneger becomes U.S. President. The way things are going on this planet, it's a rising possibility. :) :)
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I've been wondering for some time whether to suggest making the loli content seperate from the main. Here in Virginia, USA, a man went to jail for his manga collection. (Not to be confused with an earlier case where someone had actual child porn as well as manga.) The lawyer argued that manga art wasn't real therefore no one was affected. The judge decided that the manga had "an appearance" of underage porn and therefore was punishable by law. I am not a fan of loli stuff, but have to think that using "an appearance of" as a standard seems to open up the law to potential abuse.
Great! So I go down for murder, if I make "an appearance" of killing someone. However, when I get out I can kill that person in front of hundreds of witnesses and go free because of "double jeopardy". :-\ Guys, isn't judicial system just great? ::)
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that's not how it works
if you rob a bank, serve your time and get out, then rob the same bank again, you're going to get convicted again
if you get convicted for attempt of murder, get out, and attempt to murder the same guy again, you're serving time again
the system is in place to prevent abuse of law, i.e. sending a person to court for the same crime over and over until he gets convicted
the situation that seems to be confusing you is that, in case when you get falsely convicted for murder, and the victim is actually alive, once you get out of prison you are theoretically free to kill him/her, as you'd already paid the price for committing the act
and I've never heard of such a thing outside of movies
also, fuck your shit, arnold is awesome
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If you were convicted of a murder you didn't commit, released, and then *actually* killed the person you were supposed to have murdered, you could absolutely be put on trial again. The first conviction would be overturned because evidence would clearly show you to be not guilty, but the murder the second case revolves around is a separate crime from the first and thus not covered by double jeopardy. It might not even be the same charge, considering you might have been put away for a lesser degree of murder, or even manslaughter, while the second time would clearly be premeditated and thus first-degree murder. The fact that you were falsely incarcerated the first time might be considered a mitigating circumstance, however, and lead to a reduced or commuted sentence.
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right, that's why I said "theoretically"
the entire notion is pretty idiotic, though
why would you bother "making an appearance" of killing somebody and serve the sentence, all just so you could kill someone once you get out?
how do you achieve such a thing without disposing of said someone? wouldn't that pull other criminal acts, such as conspiracy, or something?
does that make any sense whatsoever?
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I Knew there was a crappy movie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_%28film%29) who's plot centered around this exact misinterpretation.
Never Mind the fact that they screw up Double Jeopardy, A woman spends 6 years in jail for murdering her husband and nobody notices he's still walking around alive. (With their child mind you.)
I like crappy movies, but even I can't stomach something that asinine.
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there was another one with russians who came to the us in order to cleverly use double jeopardy to evade serving time for murder, so that they can later write a book, which would then be a bestseller, which would attract hollywood's attention, so that they can eventually sell the rights which would make them millionaires
or something
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If you were convicted of a murder you didn't commit, released, and then *actually* killed the person you were supposed to have murdered, you could absolutely be put on trial again. The first conviction would be overturned because evidence would clearly show you to be not guilty, but the murder the second case revolves around is a separate crime from the first and thus not covered by double jeopardy. It might not even be the same charge, considering you might have been put away for a lesser degree of murder, or even manslaughter, while the second time would clearly be premeditated and thus first-degree murder. The fact that you were falsely incarcerated the first time might be considered a mitigating circumstance, however, and lead to a reduced or commuted sentence.
Hmmmm... let's say first murder is premeditated and you get 25 years. Please, overturn first conviction get me my 25 years of life back... After served sentence I can hack&slash at my "victim" at will. The best you'll get to pin on me is corpse mutilation and public disturbance...
And if I go down for "manslaughter", when I serve and get out if I see my "victim" I can strangle him/her with bare hands at sight; then sucker D.A. into charging me with manslaughter, then get out...
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right, that's why I said "theoretically"
the entire notion is pretty idiotic, though
why would you bother "making an appearance" of killing somebody and serve the sentence, all just so you could kill someone once you get out?
how do you achieve such a thing without disposing of said someone? wouldn't that pull other criminal acts, such as conspiracy, or something?
does that make any sense whatsoever?
There was a movie... :D with Al Pacino, where he made digital on-screen actress that everybody believed was real. He decided to get rid of her and threw all tapes in trunk and trunk in the sea. He was arrested under suspicion of murder and he couldn't prove he didn't do it... :)
But my idea came from a sci-fi story I read long time ago about "earning" a murder.
Two guys get to work in some mines on alien planet for 12 years. The catch is convicts in these mines have very low survivability rate, so when you serve 12 years and survive you get one free kill: you can kill anyone you want.
The best part is they get TV coverage and radio is always asking - "Who are they going to kill?" - like it's world series or something.
First guy wanted to kill his wife, but when he got out he found out that she died in an accident one month earlier (probably with a smile on her face, because she tricked him into serving sentence or nothing ;D ).
Second guy had a target in mind - someone who he thought betrayed him. However during the story he started to get calls from a bunch of individuals close to him, confessing how they conned him, etc. asking not to kill them, so he called that guy (his intended target) and said to him that he wanted to kill him for betrayal but now he sees that he was the most honest guy in the bunch.
Anyway, story ends with these ex-convicts sitting in an second floor restaurant and then throwing a couple of grenades randomly out the window killing couple of pedestrians on the street. When police arrives they just introduce themselves and ask the officer: "Where do I need to sign off?"
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There was a movie... :D with Al Pacino, where he made digital on-screen actress that everybody believed was real. He decided to get rid of her and threw all tapes in trunk and trunk in the sea. He was arrested under suspicion of murder and he couldn't prove he didn't do it... :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1m0ne
That the one you're talking about?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1m0ne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S1m0ne)
That the one you're talking about?
Yep. Simone. Didn't even click your link.
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sorry for the necromancy,
but just to point out (as a fellow aussie) around %70 of listed child sex offenders are minors themselves, ...
mostly the advent of smart phones they tend to take a "quick snap" of their fun for face book, so yeh
backward politics, Victorian attitudes towards exposure and not all that long ago we finally got our R18+ rating
so hopefully game industry's wont be trying to adapt for us.
Let the smut fly!
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WM is not made for British/Australians along is it? Figure out what laws apply in your country and act accordingly, but I'll second suggestion for removing loli content from original WM and replacing with better known characters from more high profile Anime/Games (Tifa, Nami, Sakura Haruno, Hinata and so on), there is no point in distributing WM with pics that say 'three year old mother' in vanilla version.