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Game Discussion => General Discussion & Download => Topic started by: Uriel on January 06, 2011, 03:00:43 AM
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Can't stay logged in. First happened a day or two ago, now i relogin every time i visit Crossgate. Tried to delete cookies, changed password - no effect.
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same thing here can't say how many times i've had to rewrite something cause i hit post and it logged me out >.<
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lol that JUST happened to me.
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I blame Doc >.>
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happening to me too :)
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C'mon, guys, we all know how many bugs Doc causes in the game, and how sparse his updates are, and how he causes the userbase to get demotivated through the combination of these things...
But I wouldn't go so far as to blame him for logout problems. That's just rude.
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C'mon, guys, we all know how many bugs Doc causes in the game, and how sparse his updates are, and how he causes the userbase to get demotivated through the combination of these things...
I feel more motivated already :)
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I feel more motivated already :)
FIX THE BUGS AND ENABLE THE TORTURE OPTIONS. GAH.
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Please.
...Oh, and do something about the logouts. If you can.
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Not that big a priority for me.
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I'm on sabattical.
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I'm on sabattical.
Yeah, you're not working irl.
All the more reason to spend time on this fun project.
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All the more reason to spend time on this fun project.
"Fun?" Which part is the "fun" part, Radience?
Is it the part where I don't get to participate in the design process, but nevertheless have to work hard and do as I'm told?
Or is it the part where I get shouted at by random people for proposing things that might make the game better?
This hasn't been fun for me for quite a while. Which is why I'm on sabbatical.
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It's happening to me too, not sure what the deal is. I'll look into it when I have some spare time.
C'mon, guys, we all know how many bugs Doc causes in the game, and how sparse his updates are, and how he causes the userbase to get demotivated through the combination of these things...
Doc doesn't seem to create many new bugs at all from what I've seen.
As for a demotivated userbase (whether that's true or not), it really doesn't matter much for the project(s). Demotivated developers on free project(s), on the other hand, matter quite a hell of a lot.
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C'mon, guys, we all know how many bugs Doc causes in the game, and how sparse his updates are, and how he causes the userbase to get demotivated through the combination of these things...
"Fun?" Which part is the "fun" part, Radience?
Is it the part where I don't get to participate in the design process, but nevertheless have to work hard and do as I'm told?
Or is it the part where I get shouted at by random people for proposing things that might make the game better?
This hasn't been fun for me for quite a while. Which is why I'm on sabbatical.
You better relax, guys. Would it help if we buy you two a gift?
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Seriousness now, joking aside.
What browser is everybody using? Cuz it seems to me Firefox just updated recently and the logouts started around that time.
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Seriousness now, joking aside.
What browser is everybody using? Cuz it seems to me Firefox just updated recently and the logouts started around that time.
Firefox 3.5.16 here
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Seriousness now, joking aside.
What browser is everybody using? Cuz it seems to me Firefox just updated recently and the logouts started around that time.
Google chrome. Only the best.
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Firefox 3.6.13
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i have been having to use window internet explorer for the past week so far because firefo has been killing itself if i open more then five tabs two weeks ago it didn' even slow down if i had 200 tabs open something has happened
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Hrmm... so it's spanning across different browsers. Probably a cookie expiration issue then.
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Actually, having looked into it a little, it appears to be a bot trying to log into existing accounts, guessing random common passwords. I don't see that such attempts are likely to be successful at all given the low frequency of them and the brute-force nature, but there you have it.
When the bot's login attempt fails for a particular username, the forum clears that user's session. So, that user then needs to log back in.
The bot is using random IP addresses, so I can't block it that way. I'll look into other solutions when I have the time. In the meantime, all I can say is to bear with it and make sure you don't have a really common one-word password or anything like that. It's quite unlikely the bot will manage to randomly get a password right, but better safe than sorry.
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Oh, so they're trying to hack us. Guess PPG is popular then eh?
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I guess. It's trying to get into fires_flair's account right now, based on the forum error log. It's waiting a bit over 10 minutes between each attempt (not very effective for brute force password cracking), with a new IP address each time.
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are the IP's localized or is it working via proxy? Probably a proxy, but a router reset would explain the time between attempts.
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In which case, there might be something to be gained by complaining to the ISP in question. Good thinking.
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Opera here :) But yeah, I've noticed a few bots from time to time. Means we're getting a lot of vistors! :D
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Side note: Radiance, weren't you part of the team working on Sim Brothel? What ever happened to that? ::)
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I checked a couple of the IPs and they were on the TOR network. The rest probably are proxies as well. I'd prefer not to block proxy server IP ranges, but I might do that as a last resort if the bot seems to be restricted to a few proxy IP ranges and if I can't find a better solution.
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Side note: Radiance, weren't you part of the team working on Sim Brothel? What ever happened to that? ::)
I was too much like Doc, so we never got anything done. Why do you think I have such a problem with him? :)
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I was too much like Doc, so we never got anything done. Why do you think I have such a problem with him? :)
Hey don't blame me - I only stopped by here to fix a few bugs and port the code to Linux; maybe offer some encouragement to a talented designer who was making a game I enjoyed. Hanging around for a couple of years was never in the game plan. I had - have - projects of my own, you know?
Still, that said, I've had fun working on Whoremaster. It's a great game, and I feel privileged to have been part of the dev team. But let's get a few things into perspective here.
A little while ago, you, ShingingRadiance, and a few of your friends went to great lengths to persuade me that I lacked the moral authority to take the game in the direction I had in mind. OK, fair enough. We ran a few polls and just under two thirds of those responding supported my vision. I guess that if I'd been some brutal uncaring tyrant bent on forcing everyone to do things my way (as you recently suggested) then that would have been justification enough. But ... I figured you had a point.
The thing is, if I don't have that moral authority, then who does? Just because I'm not in charge here, Radiance, that does not mean that you are. That's a point that seems to have escaped you lately.
No, the only person who has any real authority to determine the direction in which the game should proceed is necno. So I asked him, and he was very clear. He wants the the game to be finished. Fair enough. It's necno's game and necno's project. I admit, I had hoped he'd back my vision, but he didn't and I'm happy to respect his wishes.
I appreciate that you may not like where that leaves the project, Radiance. But if you're honest with yourself, you'll find you're not without responsibility for the current state of affairs.
Now, if you don't mind, I have a number of projects where I do have the right to make design decisions, and I think I'll go and work on one of them.
For everybody else - my apologies for the rant.
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I just got strange, unexplainable signatures on my thread hijack detectors. Hang on guys while i'm trying to decipher them.
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Hey don't blame me - I only stopped by here to fix a few bugs and port the code to Linux; maybe offer some encouragement to a talented designer who was making a game I enjoyed. Hanging around for a couple of years was never in the game plan. I had - have - projects of my own, you know?
Still, that said, I've had fun working on Whoremaster. It's a great game, and I feel privileged to have been part of the dev team. But let's get a few things into perspective here.
A little while ago, you, ShingingRadiance, and a few of your friends went to great lengths to persuade me that I lacked the moral authority to take the game in the direction I had in mind. OK, fair enough. We ran a few polls and just under two thirds of those responding supported my vision. I guess that if I'd been some brutal uncaring tyrant bent on forcing everyone to do things my way (as you recently suggested) then that would have been justification enough. But ... I figured you had a point.
The thing is, if I don't have that moral authority, then who does? Just because I'm not in charge here, Radiance, that does not mean that you are. That's a point that seems to have escaped you lately.
No, the only person who has any real authority to determine the direction in which the game should proceed is necno. So I asked him, and he was very clear. He wants the the game to be finished. Fair enough. It's necno's game and necno's project. I admit, I had hoped he'd back my vision, but he didn't and I'm happy to respect his wishes.
I appreciate that you may not like where that leaves the project, Radiance. But if you're honest with yourself, you'll find you're not without responsibility for the current state of affairs.
Now, if you don't mind, I have a number of projects where I do have the right to make design decisions, and I think I'll go and work on one of them.
For everybody else - my apologies for the rant.
Hmm... No, I don't accept that.
The only reason I stepped in was to get exodia to come back and do things. Helpful things. Like making the best girlpacks.
But because he's bored with the game, he won't come back until... well, Lua might've been enough.
I didn't necessarily step in specifically to get you to do most of these things. Unintended consequences. Though, it goes beyond 'unintended consequences' when you try to place the blame almost totally on my shoulders.
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What I dislike is how you seem to constantly eat up attention while looking for different ways to avoid doing anything, and make new forms of drama.
I think you're a liar, and I think that you're rather childish and annoying, and I see my old self in you. You could've done a lot of things for this game without drastically altering it, and a lot of things while drastically altering it.
And as for 'other projects'. Like you'll ever finish working on them. Hey, here's a thought: Finish working on what you're doing before looking for new things to mess around with. I just don't want you to latch onto ANOTHER project like you've done in the past and then not complete it, run it into the ground, then blame everyone else before running away and repeating.
I can see why some people think you're a troll, but I don't quite think that's it. It's just who you are, you're not doing it on purpose.
I'm sure you have plenty of talent. Just stop drama-ing everything. If people support you, they support you. Trust me: I enjoy harassing exodia MUCH more than I enjoy harassing you. You just give me a headache. You MUST be a taurus.
And "A band of friends" isn't quite right. Just exodia. I don't know any more of these perverts on here.
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@ShiningRadiance: I don't think there's anything in that which requires a further response on my part. My position is unchanged: I'm on sabbatical. That's not going to change just because you shout and pout and stamp your foot.
@Uriel: Apologies for the thead hijack, I believe I'm done here.
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I can see why some people think you're a troll, but I don't quite think that's it. It's just who you are, you're not doing it on purpose.
The only one I've seen recently who seems to fit that description is you, actually. You come across as a rather abrasive individual.
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The only one I've seen recently who seems to fit that description is you, actually. You come across as a rather abrasive individual.
Porn is for getting rid of stress. Porn sites, doubly so.
As are my contacts that I know through sites such as those.
I'm really a rather... hmm... floaty individual.
Floaty should work.
What I dislike about Doc is that he's similar to me. I don't know why he thinks that's an insult. It just means he's good with lots of things, but bad with projects like these, so he should avoid them unless he's willing to finish them, which he's not.
I decided to fight with Doc here primarily because we had a pm conversation, and he was afraid of talking to me one on one, so he wanted me to post in public and attract the attention of people who would defend him. I actually called this happening in that pm exchange.
Though, it's amusing that he makes me out to be a child. He's the one who ended up going "LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA" and refused to talk in our pm exchange. Quite literally, too.
Fine, Doc, stay on sabbatical. I hope you actually come off of it this summer.
I bet exodia you'd stay on sabbatical for two years. He had little faith and bet you'd never come off of it and wander onto another project.
If you come off of sabbatical ever, then he has to name his penis "Mr. Tiny." Do your best.
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Lots of bad karma here, hehehe.
I know what radiance is talking about. You just start something new and you're on it 100%, you work your way through the middle and start losing interest at that point -the excitement has gone and there are lots of boring stuff you have to fix because you left them aside working on the exciting ones. When you see that happening, you know that you've just reached the top of the "interest curve" and you're going down.
When the "interest curve" goes down, there's a chance you just quit and forget about whatever you were doing. Or leave it for some time and then return. Or you can stubbornly decide that you have to finish it just because you decided to begin the damm thing in the first place.
That said, I don't know why you insist on annoying Doc. If you were trying to get him back to work, this must be amongst the worst things you can do (besides calling his penis "Mr. Tiny", of course :D )
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Lots of bad karma here, hehehe.
I know what radiance is talking about. You just start something new and you're on it 100%, you work your way through the middle and start losing interest at that point -the excitement has gone and there are lots of boring stuff you have to fix because you left them aside working on the exciting ones. When you see that happening, you know that you've just reached the top of the "interest curve" and you're going down.
When the "interest curve" goes down, there's a chance you just quit and forget about whatever you were doing. Or leave it for some time and then return. Or you can stubbornly decide that you have to finish it just because you decided to begin the damm thing in the first place.
That said, I don't know why you insist on annoying Doc. If you were trying to get him back to work, this must be amongst the worst things you can do (besides calling his penis "Mr. Tiny", of course :D )
Exodia's, not Doc's. I'd never call Doc's penis tiny. That's. Just. Mean.
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Back on the subject of logouts, I've found a common factor in the bot login attempts which I'm now blocking. Normal login attempts should still work fine for users, but the bot should get back a 403 Forbidden error.
I've waited about an hour and seen no further bot login attempts get through in that time, so it seems to be working. I've also logged out and back in without a problem. So far so good.
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Yup. I seem to be logged in fine. Without fear of logouts; nicely done good sir!
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The only one I've seen recently who seems to fit that description is you, actually. You come across as a rather abrasive individual.
Actually, Fixet kind of fit that description too for awhile.