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Title: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 14, 2015, 08:29:36 AM
I'd like to see more items in WM. Way more items. So, I figured I'd just make them myself (It's really not that hard).
As time permits, I'll upload a package every time I have a new batch of twenty (seems like a nice amount). I currently (when this thread started) made only four, but already have some ideas for more, and I'm open for suggestions, though I will want to keep things fun AND balanced. So that "ring of awesome +100 all stats" probably won't happen.  :P
Whenever I hit 100 items, so five packages, I'll combine them into one single package.

Currently suggested:


In the pipeline for next release:



-reserving the second post (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3535.msg32166#msg32166) for when I start uploading, so I have space to detail the contents of each package once I start uploading-


Notes:
I put stoles into the Armor slot. Already existing capes were also in the armor slot, so it made sense to put stoles there as well. Especially since the girls wanting these specific stats would be less interested in wearing armor anyway. And unlike Consumables or Misc items, this slot can be used without indefinite stacking.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 14, 2015, 08:30:04 AM
Unpack directly into the Resources\Items folder within your Whoremaster directory.
These items were made for Crazy and PP's mod, so some items might very well cause the regular Whoremaster game to crash!

Downloads:

ShoHaFa Items Pack 1
https://mega.co.nz/#!PhsniTjA!ndX-DsoCkDRn6xYGRs4lIjULgTEKz2IiPF55_PyHKgE (https://mega.co.nz/#!PhsniTjA!ndX-DsoCkDRn6xYGRs4lIjULgTEKz2IiPF55_PyHKgE)
Most of these items are now included in the standard items for Crazy and PP's mod.

Contains:
Amulets/Necklaces
-Amulet of Life

Armor/Capes
-Pink Stole
-Black Stole
-White Stole
-Fox Stole
-Fur Stole
-Panda Fur Stole

Misc
-Homemade Sybian (Use at own risk!)
-Homemade Sybian DeLuxe
-Fancy Sybian
-Rose-tinted Glasses
-Weekly Social Therapy Session
-Black String Bikini

Rings
-Lesser Prophylactic Ring (Use at own risk!)

Shoes
-FlipFlops
-Heelless Heels
-Low Heeled Pump

Underwear
-Cotton Panties
-Frilled Cotton Panties
-Silk Lingerie


ShoHaFa Items Pack 2
https://mega.co.nz/#!mxdF0KoL!O0NTO0wZ3sIbU23WEXEfbT1AYMT6YAYZjOxCt9kdvY8
Hats:
-White Fedora
-Pillbox Hat
-Cloche Hat
-Sombrero
-Huge Sun Hat
-Top Hat

Helmets:
-Leather Cap
-Pot Helmet
-Iron Helmet
-Steel Helmet
-Gold Helmet
-Adamantium Helmet
-Valkyrie Headdress

Shields:
-Wooden Buckler
-Ironclad Buckler
-Ornamental Heater
-Kite Shield
-Scutum
-Jetpack (uhmmmm, yes! I like doing unconventional things, to throw a spanner into my own OCD :p )

Swimwear:
-Red Swimsuit
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: MuteDay on January 15, 2015, 09:52:37 AM
hey man, the forum doesnt tell us when you make an edit, so please reply to your post when you have updated your first post please
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 15, 2015, 10:04:54 AM
hey man, the forum doesnt tell us when you make an edit, so please reply to your post when you have updated your first post please
I update the post as I go, so just today I already made 8 or 9 updates to it. But, I'll add a reply when I upload or in reaction to ideas and suggestions from other people.
At the current rate of additions, I might get my first upload out tonight already. Only 2 items to go. YAY!
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: MuteDay on January 15, 2015, 10:10:04 AM
awsome, here within next few days might end up asking ya if you wouldnt mind making some items for Evolved, but i have to build the editors first :)
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 15, 2015, 12:54:30 PM
YAY! The first upload. I hope the download link works properly though.
Ideas, suggestions, etcetera are very welcome, ofcourse. More ideas = more stuff!
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: aevojoey on January 17, 2015, 07:07:56 AM
Couple of problems:

First having the Stoles as Armor negates their purpose.
Armor is only used in combat jobs, in any other job, armor and weapons are unequipped, thus their stats are removed.
I changed them all to Misc because they are something that can be used anytime, even in combat, though they don't help.


Try to be consistent in how you do the Desc modifiers.
Wrap them in ( ) so they are set apart from the rest of the Desc.
I usually try to sort them by the numbers, but it is not required. I sort numbers then +/- so (-5, +10, -15, +5, +15, -10) would get sorted (+15, -15, +10, -10, +5, +5).
If there are a lot of stats/skills with the same modifier, they can be joined. (+5 agi, com, cha, -5 int, bea, hea)


Infinite items should probably be rarer especially if their price is low and their benefit is high.
Usually when I make an item infinite, I make one version of it that is infinite and one version that is not with the infinite version higher price and/or rarer.


Your "Lesser Prophylactic Ring" is a good idea but some versions of it give way too many traits for such a low price.



Other than that, I like what you made.
They will be in with the next version but with a few changes.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 17, 2015, 02:32:29 PM
Ah, darn shame those items get unequiped, I figured it'd be useful, since there's only 1 single slot per character. I'm not fond of making misc items, simply because it's becoming a bit of a "stat collection bin". For example, I can currently put fancy stocking, elegant stockings and regular stocking on the same girl at once. It's not like she gets options to change from one type to another, but she'd be wearing all three at the same time. I'd actually rather also move the White String Bikini out of misc and into "Underwear" (it'd still be a very good piece of clothing!), but there's something in the code looking for that specific item, and I'm not sure the code would still catch it if the bikinis were moved out of misc.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: aevojoey on January 17, 2015, 06:30:53 PM
Ah, darn shame those items get unequiped, I figured it'd be useful, since there's only 1 single slot per character. I'm not fond of making misc items, simply because it's becoming a bit of a "stat collection bin". For example, I can currently put fancy stocking, elegant stockings and regular stocking on the same girl at once. It's not like she gets options to change from one type to another, but she'd be wearing all three at the same time. I'd actually rather also move the White String Bikini out of misc and into "Underwear" (it'd still be a very good piece of clothing!), but there's something in the code looking for that specific item, and I'm not sure the code would still catch it if the bikinis were moved out of misc.
The item use in the code you are talking about checks the item based on the name not the type.
I already added your Black String Bikini in with the White String Bikini so they will not conflict and she can wear either the black or the white.
Other types of swimwear can be added to the same check so she only uses one per shift.
In the future, a swimwear category could be added, but that will wait until more uses for it are added.


Edit:
I have added most of your items to the items folder for the next version mostly without too many changes.
The only 2 I left out were:
"Homemade Sybian.itemsx"
Having 2 versions of the same item, one as Misc and the other as Consumable makes distinguishing them too easy.
If a player got one of these they would just have to sort their inventory by type to throw away the bad one.


"Lesser Prophylactic Ring.itemsx"
There are too many variations that have too many traits for such a low price.
If it were a consumable item, this might not be a problem because there would be more risk in using an unknown item.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: crazy on January 17, 2015, 11:12:57 PM
I can currently put fancy stocking, elegant stockings and regular stocking on the same girl at once.
I started a post to talk about new item types here http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3484.0 (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3484.0)  It didn't get many replays so I didn't add the 2 types I talked about yet.  Im open to many new item types if people want them and we have a good use for them.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 18, 2015, 03:54:03 AM
I started a post to talk about new item types here http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3484.0 (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3484.0)  It didn't get many replays so I didn't add the 2 types I talked about yet.  Im open to many new item types if people want them and we have a good use for them.
Ah, I missed that post before, but I'd love to see some more slots to reduce the misc-clutter and increase balance and maybe introduce new game mechanics!
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 31, 2015, 12:56:59 AM
Still working on some new items. Meanwhile, here's a girls zipfile with generic Asari imagery for Random girls. I'm a big Mass Effect fan, and wouldn't mind running a brothel full of these spacebabes. I'd be my own biggest client then I guess  ::)

https://mega.co.nz/#!7wEQzJYa!W7d-6HdzzMlLNZIHktaeKvnb54WhQeiar7I7I9DsjtU (https://mega.co.nz/#!7wEQzJYa!W7d-6HdzzMlLNZIHktaeKvnb54WhQeiar7I7I9DsjtU)

There are some images of Liara, Aria, Samara, etc. in there, but not many. I tried to keep it really generic overall. Oh, and no futa's either. I personally can't stand those, and (sadly) half the Asari fan-art seems futa-based, so I really had to dig around for the nicer stuff.  :-X
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 31, 2015, 10:44:23 AM
Added in top post what I have so far, (I'll paste below again).
And now I'm off to wikipedia to learn everything I didn't want to know about different styles of hats.

Helmets:
Leather Cap
Pot Helmet
Iron Helmet
Steel Helmet
Gold Helmet
Adamantium Helmet
Valkyrie Headdress

Shields:
Wooden Buckler
Ironclad Buckler
Ornamental Heater
Kite Shield
Scutum
Jetpack
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: ShoHaFa on January 31, 2015, 12:01:30 PM
Aaaand uploaded!

ShoHaFa Items Pack 2
https://mega.co.nz/#!mxdF0KoL!O0NTO0wZ3sIbU23WEXEfbT1AYMT6YAYZjOxCt9kdvY8
Hats:
-White Fedora
-Pillbox Hat
-Cloche Hat
-Sombrero
-Huge Sun Hat
-Top Hat

Helmets:
-Leather Cap
-Pot Helmet
-Iron Helmet
-Steel Helmet
-Gold Helmet
-Adamantium Helmet
-Valkyrie Headdress

Shields:
-Wooden Buckler
-Ironclad Buckler
-Ornamental Heater
-Kite Shield
-Scutum
-Jetpack (uhmmmm, yes! I like doing unconventional things, to throw a spanner into my own OCD :p )

Swimwear:
-Red Swimsuit (yes, we need more swimwear)
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: Gmind on February 05, 2015, 09:50:06 AM
Not too sure if this is the best/right place to put this, but a section within the weekly summary for acquired items/girls would be pretty nice to have.

Also, how are shield-type items handled within the game? Is that type of item in for shits-and-gigs/to appease us players or does it have a chance to block attacks during combat (I'd imagine that shield-type items would block attacks but just want to be certain)
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: aevojoey on February 05, 2015, 10:02:01 AM
Not too sure if this is the best/right place to put this, but a section within the weekly summary for acquired items/girls would be pretty nice to have.
All the items acquired by girls are listed by the girl who collected the items.
A central list for the items collected could be added but it may take a little while.

Also, how are shield-type items handled within the game? Is that type of item in for shits-and-gigs/to appease us players or does it have a chance to block attacks during combat (I'd imagine that shield-type items would block attacks but just want to be certain)
Shields are just an item to modify stats, they currently do not affect combat in any other way.
In time they may, but it would probably only be text at first.

Unless you disable auto-equip combat items in config.xml, weapons, armor, shields, helmets and combat boots are removed when not in a combat job.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: dmotrl on February 05, 2015, 12:38:56 PM
Unless you disable auto-equip combat items in config.xml, weapons, armor, shields, helmets and combat boots are removed when not in a combat job.
'Combat Jobs' are Catacombs, Security, Beast Capture, Arena Fighting (Cage or Beast), and City Guard, right?  Anything else?
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: aevojoey on February 05, 2015, 02:28:37 PM
'Combat Jobs' are Catacombs, Security, Beast Capture, Arena Fighting (Cage or Beast), and City Guard, right?  Anything else?
Catacomb Rancher and Torturer are combat jobs also, 8 total.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: HuiBui on April 12, 2015, 07:39:11 AM
I would like to come back to the whole stuff of traits which are meanwhile added into the game.

IMHO there are some traits which are overlapping because they are standing for the same "thing" or making the game just exploding.
In addition it makes it more harder to keep these in mind when writing scripts.
For an example :
The breast size now are:
Flat Chest
Petite Breast
Small boobs
Busty Boobs
Big Boobs
Abnormally Large Boobs
Giant Jugs
Massive Melons
Titanis Tits


If you won't mind  please could you reduce them in a way that makes more sense?
I would prefer from smallest to biggest:
Flat Chest    <cup A
Petite Breast  = cup A
Small boobs = cup B
Busty Boobs = cup C
Big Boobs = cup D
Abnormally Large Boobs  > cup D

The desription of the hip size and their asses are also overlapping for example.

It would also be very helpful if the traits are better sorted (all breast sizes from smallest to biggest directly following each other) thats helpful for all traits . This would be helpful specially when creating new girls with the WM editor.
Title: Re: WM Items. Ideas, suggestions, etcetera
Post by: MMeer on April 13, 2015, 12:51:11 AM
There's also a 'Plump' trait, but not a 'Slender' trait, for those girls who are thinner than normal. 'Slender' would probably lower constitution a little in addition to any looks-related changes.