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NuMysterio:
Might as well add the first topic, though I did post it on the old forums, but no replies.  So again:

Since the torture and talk buttons weren't merged for the last update, let me make a suggestion reguarding the torture button:Make it a multiple choice option like the talk button. Relabel it, say, "Punish" and add some scaled punishments/tortures.Like say, the weakest one would be "Tickle Torture," which while certianly evil, won't hurt the girl or make her hate/fear the player, but should reduce rebelliousness. Next highest would be something like "Spanking" and on and up from there to, well the most extreme, out right killing her I suppose (that's something that would have a global effect on all girls, I would think).Then you can leave the talk button more or less alone (still rename it "Interact") and allow a few extra options.

Incidentally, I assume it's all hard coded, but could the talk options menu be redone so it is modable? I think that was the original intent, but I'll be damned if I can find where the files for it are.

I would also like to see some stronger relationships between the traits and how the girls react to the player. A dependent girl, for example, should gain more happiness from the comfort option than regular girls, and much more than one with the independent trait. I know some of the traits are just straight up fetish options, but I would like to see a stronger relationship between the traits and the stats, which I really don't see right now.

And finally, I think the number of starting traits for any girl (even the mod girls) should be limited to a set number. There are a lot of the user made girls that have 20 traits (or so it seems) and that seems a touch excessive. After you get the girl you'll add traits, but I don't want to START with all these traits everytime. Just my thought anyway.

letmein:
I agree to most of this, or at least the basic gist.

I'm not a fan of making things "bigger, better, more, always" (and I posted to that effect as 'Guest'), but the current level of PC-girl interaction could be improved upon a bit.  I wouldn't necessarily want 18 different kinds of interaction, but having 5-ish instead of the current two would be an improvement in my eyes.

As for traits, I agree here too.  While I certainly understand that modders simply want to be accurate, I think that having girls start with 12+ traits off the bat devalues traits overall.  I think a limit of seven or eight on initial girl creation would be a good balance of high customization and general trait balancing.

In that same vein, there are a couple traits that are obviously more powerful or unique, and should maybe count as more than one (is you limit them).  Obvious candidates are incorporeal, construct, and perhaps optimistic - I'm not exactly positive about how "strong" these exactly are.  I do know that incorporeal is amazingly powerful, maybe even unbalanced, and has a tendency to annoy when you have that girl in your dungeon you just can't get rid of...     so again, I agree that traits should perhaps be considered a bit for balance.  Maybe weaken incorp's effect, or strengthen some other ones.

Alienhand:
I mainly agree with NuMysterio a few more options maybe would be nice, like 5 or such, of course still with the good guy/bad guy-feature. I know you have to do all the work for this but you asked for suggestions  :D besides, I already postet it as guest in the other forum, I really think you should chance the possibility to talk, punish or even rape girls when they're already dead.... or at least the girls shouldn't react on it like if they would be still alive.  ;)

Mehzerz:
I don't know how useful it'd be to torture dead girls but to each his own I guess.

Otherwise I pretty much agree with all of the above. However, and this may not be directly torture button related... but I'd like to see some options where you're not completely sure what truly is right or wrong. This will probably be a horrible example but say someone was on life support and barely alive. Would it be more humane to pull the plug or not? Whether these choices come up later via scripts or catacombs crawling or what have you.

What these choices would consist of is beyond me. But say a girl is homeless and comes to you for aid. You let her in, you take care of her and then a couple days later she robs you blind and runs off. Maybe kills some of your goons or attacks the player. There's really no actual consequences for your actions yet. You repeatedly rape a girl with a high rebellion and combat she should have a chance to kill you. You don't discipline a girl with fleet of foot and she'll steal from you. There's multiple traits that can be added into the list.

And I have no idea how it would be implemented but... perhaps you could actually make girls that are constructs with one of your buildings? Allowing you to set their personality, traits, and stats. However the more you add the more you spend. Traits depending on what they do would be more expensive... while other traits like "sexy air" or "great figure" would be more random. (Say they can only have a max of 15 or so) You can choose 10 while 5 more general ones would be random once built.

Though, I could honestly do without that last one. I think the game needs more player/girl interaction like the above posters than anything else.

NuMysterio:

--- Quote from: letmein on October 14, 2009, 01:52:18 AM ---I'm not a fan of making things "bigger, better, more, always" (and I posted to that effect as 'Guest'), but the current level of PC-girl interaction could be improved upon a bit.  I wouldn't necessarily want 18 different kinds of interaction, but having 5-ish instead of the current two would be an improvement in my eyes.

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Agreed on limiting it, I was just throwing some ideas out.  I would say 5-7 different ones, with half being more "good" and the other half being "evil" with one neutral option.


--- Quote from: Alienhand on October 14, 2009, 04:20:22 AM ---I really think you should chance the possibility to talk, punish or even rape girls when they're already dead.... or at least the girls shouldn't react on it like if they would be still alive.  ;)

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Not touching that one.

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