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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #465 on: March 01, 2013, 09:23:41 AM »
Do you think we need more than one?
Probably not, but some of them may look funny during the combat, so this just in case.

By early Xela's request, I also added battle (probably part of warrior report)
I guess they fall under the category of combat? We already use word "battle" for sprites, after all.

If you (or anyone), by chance, feel not like creating them, just send applicable pics to me, as I kind of enjoy this type of work.
Thanks, I would appreciate that. I hate such things.

Nude for events and maybe also with future in mind, for gameevents.
Ok, I added nude to my post.
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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #466 on: March 01, 2013, 11:09:14 AM »
One more thing I completely forgot about. Do we need Death category like in wm ex, for death and low-on-health events?

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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #467 on: March 01, 2013, 11:23:01 AM »
One more thing I completely forgot about. Do we need Death category like in wm ex, for death and low-on-health events?

 That usually leads to pics where girls are all blooded or had been ripped apart.

 No, Roman had a very good solution to this for Alkion, simply to use profile images paired with im.Sepia() that recolors image in greyscale. That paired with text will be more than sufficient.
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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #468 on: March 01, 2013, 02:10:34 PM »
OK, I have to clarify it. What do you expect from nude category, why don't use strip instead? Without any clothes at all or what?

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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #469 on: March 01, 2013, 02:33:59 PM »
OK, I have to clarify it. What do you expect from nude category, why don't use strip instead? Without any clothes at all or what?

Yeah, most girls would have pics that clearly belong in strip category. Nude is without clothes, I don't think we need it right now but it will be handy in the future.


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On a separate topic:

I am working on logic and finances right now and planning to rework how the game works a little bit because I didn't take everything I should have into consideration (Like a fact that strippers basically do not make any money at all other than a small amount of tips and it would be retarded to leave it at that, several other issues as well).

So I decided to make a different system. Every free girl will expect a wage, there will be a button in girl profile menu to make sure she gets it every turn even if it doesn't go straight into her pocket from work she preforms. Prostitutes will STILL expect a cut of the profit even if it's bigger than the wage they should expect but that cut will depends on girls disposition towards you and will be eventually balanced in such a way that if her disposition is over 500 out of max of a 1000, she will be happy with working for 40 percent. Rest of the girls will be happy with just wages so you can basically set house percentage to 100 and pay them what they require to be happy. If you choose not to, their joy and disposition drop rapidly and they leave your service.

Under this system, slaves will cost more as you do not pay them a wage and have higher upkeep than free girls as you have to feed and take care of them otherwise, while free girls buy their own food. Another advantage of having a free girls working for you instead of slaves that would otherwise be overwhelmingly cheaper workforce, is that free girls will spend money they make to improve themselves and maybe buy an occasional item if they have enough cash.

I think this will be a fairly honest, intuitive and interesting system. If you have something to add, have a different system in mind, or other design tips, let me know.
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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #470 on: March 01, 2013, 02:51:48 PM »
Yeah, most girls would have pics that clearly belong in strip category. Nude is without clothes
Geez, that doesn't explain anything. Just tell what are you planning/going to use nude for.

Every free girl will expect a wage
There is an interesting feature in Brothel S.im: when you select girl wage via its bar, game also shows you how her disposition will change each turn with this wage, like -5 or +2. Quite handy.

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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #471 on: March 01, 2013, 03:08:11 PM »
Geez, that doesn't explain anything. Just tell what are you planning/going to use nude for.

I don't remember, I though it would be useful while I was coding something, no longer remember what it was but it can be used for any event where girl has to be nude or in WM version when we add SM type of training and you wish to train her.


There is an interesting feature in Brothel S.im: when you select girl wage via its bar, game also shows you how her disposition will change each turn with this wage, like -5 or +2. Quite handy.

Perfectly doable. I'll add it after RenPy 6.15 is out, it's developer promised to fix that damn bar.
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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #472 on: March 01, 2013, 04:15:49 PM »
CherryWood, I have created a Sprites folder in your dropbox folder. I'll put there pics for battle and quests whose background should be deleted, when you will have some free time. Thanks again.
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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #473 on: March 02, 2013, 08:37:53 AM »
Xela, you mentioned Heal job once. Will we have it eventually? I thought about using Priest or Healer occupation for characters like Tsunade if yes.

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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #474 on: March 02, 2013, 08:52:29 AM »
Xela, you mentioned Heal job once. Will we have it eventually? I thought about using Priest or Healer occupation for characters like Tsunade if yes.

Healer, yeah. That will work, maybe even a Medical-Nin.

But it is not likely to be a job before WM version. I want to keep it simple and I still need to add jobs for warriors. So for SimBro version, slave/free statuses and jobs that we have + jobs for warriors should be enough. For now, we'll make sure if there are girls in the same brothel who have healing traits, heal girls quicker.
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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #475 on: March 02, 2013, 11:27:07 AM »
Finally went through the resting texts and dropped a modified text into your folder DarkTl.
Mostly fixed typos and made the texts read better (I hope I did at least) but the sadist and masochist traits should be probably be rethought completely with the sexual connotation in mind.
I also did not agree with your description of the lolita trait. I dislike having this discussion but we (or more likely Xela) should probably discuss what we want to bundle with the game with in that regard, since even drawn porn of characters that are of questionable age can get you in big problems in some countries.

I will try to write some replacement texts for the SM traits later today but I am not familiar with those fetishes so I am not sure if I am able to.

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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #476 on: March 02, 2013, 11:49:26 AM »
Thanks a lot, GonDra. Please also check for errors traits descriptions in traits.xml when you'll have free time.
Any new texts are welcomed, of course.

About Lolita, I've taken it from wm ex, and wm ex has taken it from wm, and in wm all girls have minimum age = 18, if I remember correctly. It means that girl is adult, but behaves or even looks like lolita.
Still, this question need to be clarified. For example, Hyuuga Hanabi from Naruto (she even has packs for wm) can't be 18 years old no matter what game says, and since I make Naruto packs right now, we have to resolve the matter.

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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #477 on: March 02, 2013, 12:47:49 PM »
Legally I don't give a damn myself. I would still like to avoid outright loli characters to be shipped with the main version of the game because it is a very serious issue in many countries where legislator's heads are full of BS. It will be available as an addon and supported by dev team (or at least me if anyone wishes to add loli characters as addons, by supported I mean that if anyone needs help with scripting for loli characters unique events, I will not refuse. There will be no content in the main game that assumes there are underage characters anywhere near brothel or slavetraining.).

Still, this question need to be clarified. For example, Hyuuga Hanabi from Naruto (she even has packs for wm) can't be 18 years old no matter what game says, and since I make Naruto packs right now, we have to resolve the matter.

There is a girl that ships with original WM that has a pic saying 3yo mother in Japanese (looking about the same as well) on it so WM or WM packs are poor examples. Sh!t like that should definitely be avoided and will be avoided in PyTFall official versions.

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As for what to consider loli, use your better judgement. We do not have age (nor do we really need it in a game with a daylong term). Hinata is not over 18 in the series but she easily passes for 20+ on most shippuuden pics. Hanabi is obviously out and will be released as part of an addon after game is completed.
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Re: SimBrothel: -PyTFall- Dev Thread: Writers needed!
« Reply #478 on: March 02, 2013, 02:24:33 PM »
I guess "loli" means not girls only? I just have found a good pic with Temari and Konohamaru  :)

There is a girl that ships with original WM that has a pic saying 3yo mother in Japanese (looking about the same as well)
Really? And here I thought Hanabi is the youngest in its packs. Jeez...

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« Reply #479 on: March 02, 2013, 02:40:30 PM »
I guess "loli" means not girls only? I just have found a good pic with Temari and Konohamaru  :)

Like I've said, use your better judgement. Don't give a damn about what age characters are in the shows, just what they appear like on the pictures. Konohamaru from shippuuden might pass in a pic's contexts.
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