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Title: daughters and sons
Post by: highx9 on January 09, 2010, 02:33:24 PM
I dont know, i just came up with an idea. i dont know if it has been said, but it would be nice if we could have some unique girls that you can only get by pregnancy. I think I read a post where the people were discussing about if the daughters should have the same images of the mother. well, this should solve the problem. make a new version of the girls editor, adding a feature of "newborn" only, do you can only get her by pregnancy. who knows, maybe a "daughter"only, to make it even more exclusive.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Zuul on January 09, 2010, 03:25:42 PM
But then you would need to create a girl exclusively for the game, because all the unique girls come from certain animes or video games, and it would be just wrong if those characters would be born in Crossgate, because then they wouldn't come from their backgrounds from their animes/video games.
I think the system right now that you get a random girl from pregnancy is pretty good. You could of course create som random 'Daughter' girls if you want to, but I see no reason to change the current system.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: highx9 on January 09, 2010, 03:27:31 PM
well, ur right with the first part, but I do aggree that making a random girl your son is a good method, but I would like to be able to difference my daughter from others. maybe some random templates for daughters then?
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Zuul on January 09, 2010, 03:33:11 PM
Usually your daughters get a trait that says 'Your Daughter', but this unfortunately doesn't work in the current version. It should be fixed however in v1.30.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: zodiac44 on January 10, 2010, 01:53:49 AM
But then you would need to create a girl exclusively for the game, because all the unique girls come from certain animes or video games, and it would be just wrong if those characters would be born in Crossgate, because then they wouldn't come from their backgrounds from their animes/video games.
I think the system right now that you get a random girl from pregnancy is pretty good. You could of course create som random 'Daughter' girls if you want to, but I see no reason to change the current system.

This is only necessary if you believe the girls description and stats must be based on the anime she is from.  For my part, I haven't seen the animes that the vast majority of the girls come from, and so their backgrounds make no difference to me, other than as flavor text.  It wouldn't bother me in the slightest to have a girl based on a character from a show but given an entirely different background for the purposes of the game, especially if doing so would enhance the game itself.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: exodia91 on January 10, 2010, 03:12:32 AM
I would actually find a use for this, I was hoping to make a Bianca's daughter Unique character that could only be obtained from Bianca giving birth to a human girl. Besides, this is WM, girls don't have to be the "actual" girls. In fact, that's how I write/imagine them I make Zelda say, a princess, but shes not the princess of Hyrule etc etc. And Esh, please don't try to limit Crossgate's universe with any kind of logic; remember, interdimensional portals, anything goes. Including girls being born who happen to look exactly like that one girl from that particular anime.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Zuul on January 10, 2010, 07:13:21 AM
But I like logic >.<
Nah, I understand your point. And frankly, I'd like to see that too ^^
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: ShiningRadiance on January 10, 2010, 01:53:45 PM
Logic can only be based on the universe that said logic is born in.

As logic stands now, fairies and pixies are basically all illogical, but suppose there was a universe that they exist in. At that point, logic is not dead, but rather changed. That is why imaginary characters are real-- in imaginationland. Just don't start project portal to the imagination doorway and manbearpig can never maul us.

But you have created that portal in that universe, and meanbearpig (global warming) will kill us all. I hope you feel proud of yourselves. We must defeat manbearpig, now! Logic dammit!
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: zodiac44 on January 10, 2010, 10:27:27 PM
Nobody takes your warnings of ManBearPig serially, ShiningRadiance.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Sigfried666 on January 11, 2010, 03:31:37 PM
I liked the idea. If we make girls exclusive for dungeons, kidnappings, recruiting and others, why not exclusive daughters for some mother characters?
Sounds nice...

(Oh, noes... Evil ideas flooding my mind...)
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: exodia91 on January 11, 2010, 04:14:15 PM
Evil ideas are the best kind. They keep things interesting.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: freemantle on January 13, 2010, 12:15:08 PM
If anything I would like to see a tracker for who the mother and father were in daughters/sons, especially if sons are ever implemented beyond being sold for cash.  That way at least the mother could be tracked and the characters could be further bred.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: KyDekra on January 13, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
If anything I would like to see a tracker for who the mother and father were in daughters/sons, especially if sons are ever implemented beyond being sold for cash.  That way at least the mother could be tracked and the characters could be further bred.

Hoping to breed a race of Super-Whores? Actually people were kicking the idea around months ago when several of us suggesting some traits/skills and such actually carrying over to the daughters (necno seemed to find it interesting, and the trait/skill thing was in for awhile but seems to have stopped working with the 'your daughter' tracking. Unless Im just not paying as much attention anymore.) I had a daughter that was born with several great traits a few versions back that had like 55-60 in all sex stats and started at Level 5, was great, took 3-4 generations to get her though.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Mehzerz on January 14, 2010, 12:28:07 AM
Would be kind of interesting if the player had some unique traits that girls could acquire by being born from him. Not sure what they'd be though, maybe a trait that increases money received by 5% or such.
If he has hidden stats it makes sense that he could have hidden traits as well. Would be pretty interesting if we could actually "set" his predetermined stats and traits so girls born from his seed would be more personal to you. But I don't know how useful that'd be as a game aspect. Kind of a feature to have... just to have.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: exodia91 on January 14, 2010, 01:05:44 PM
for a game like this though where the point is to play around and have your own fantasies, those kinda fluff features are very important, its good to have as many as you can to give the player more stuff to... well... play with.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Sigfried666 on January 15, 2010, 09:30:58 AM
Evil ideas won't go away...
So, if asking/forcing the girl to have lesbian sex is implemented, forcing a girl to have lesbian sex with her mother/her sister(would siblings be tracked?) would be incest.
Sacres some people, but there are those who have interest on it.

(Don't look at me like thaaat...)
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: DocClox on January 15, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
Were you thinking forced-lesbian-sex-in-the-dungeon, or forced-lesbian-sex-as-a-stageshow?

Doable either way, but we need to get the mother/daughter tracking sorted out first.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: hewhoispale on January 15, 2010, 01:45:14 PM
Whenever I end up getting a 'set' of daughters from non-payment, I tend to set them all up doing training/movie shifts together.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: DocClox on January 15, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
If we want to track that, we're going to need a list of random customer names. Volunteers?
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: exodia91 on January 15, 2010, 02:28:25 PM
I would do it... but I'm terrible at naming T_T whenever I try to think of names my mind just goes blank and I stare at a wall for half an hour.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: chromeo on January 15, 2010, 02:33:20 PM
If we want to track that, we're going to need a list of random customer names. Volunteers?

how many, what genre/nationality(s), and first and last or just first names?
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: DocClox on January 15, 2010, 02:57:32 PM
Two files, one of first names and one of last.  One name per line.

Random girls all use Japanese names, so to be consistent we should probably go with that, but I'm not terribly worried about that aspect of things. Crossgate has to be a pretty cosmopolitan community, so far as I can see.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: zodiac44 on January 15, 2010, 04:45:17 PM
I saw a list somewhere on the interwebs called the "Everyone, Everywhere" list, which purports to be a list of all of the common first and last names, sorted by culture and sex.  I might be able to dig it up again.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: DocClox on January 15, 2010, 05:46:57 PM
Sounds like a useful resource. Yes, please :)
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: zodiac44 on January 15, 2010, 08:04:05 PM
It turns out the thing is an RPG supplement, and it's no longer in print, as near as I can tell.  I'll ask around my gaming buddies to see if they know anyone who has a copy.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Zeus on January 15, 2010, 08:18:40 PM
http://www.acerimmer.de/downloads/doksII/RPG%20-%20Namensliste.pdf try this list ... looks Huge ^^...
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: KyDekra on January 15, 2010, 08:51:57 PM
Evil ideas won't go away...
So, if asking/forcing the girl to have lesbian sex is implemented, forcing a girl to have lesbian sex with her mother/her sister(would siblings be tracked?) would be incest.
Sacres some people, but there are those who have interest on it.

(Don't look at me like thaaat...)

Occasionally I'll be in a twisted mood when a customer refuses to pay,take his wife and 3 daughters, knock em all up, and toss em all in avid together with nobody else. That's before whoring them all out.

Oh, and about the stat/trait tracking I mentioned earlier, I meant some of the stats and traits were inherited from the mother. The father's traits things sounds like an interesting twist too though. Maybe allow the PC's daughters have a job that only they could be trusted to work. They would probably have a much better success rate at spying on the other girls then your goon squads as an example. Maybe have a QoL bonus or something if they are acting matron of a building or something.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Sigfried666 on January 15, 2010, 10:57:55 PM
And then, perhaps some messages about the act. "GirlA reluctanctly had sex with her daughter, DaughterA." and perhaps, after some time, they start to like it. "Girla and her daughter, Daughter A, made love to one another and enjoyed it a lot."

Sometimes I think my perversion is growing... more perverted...
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: ShiningRadiance on January 16, 2010, 01:14:20 AM
Daughters? I'd rather make a brother impregnate her sister. Now that's entertainment.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Sigfried666 on January 16, 2010, 09:58:12 AM
Niiiiice... Why didn't I think of that...
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: ohnonono on January 16, 2010, 01:38:13 PM
I wish I'd been keeping up with this thread; I was about to post a new one asking for family tree tracking in order to have a breeding metagame. 

Also posting in support of forcing incest on girls/sons/captured customers (this would require kidnapping their wife and daughters and throwing them into the dungeon as an added option) for sadistic fantasies and further breeding fun.

As a side question not worthy of it's own thread, is it possible to acquire girls when a lesbian customer doesn't pay?
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Zeus on January 16, 2010, 02:05:32 PM
Daughters? I'd rather make a brother impregnate her sister. Now that's entertainment.
or his own Mother.... mh... he would his Kid's Brother And Father.... 
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: zodiac44 on January 16, 2010, 02:39:55 PM
As a side question not worthy of it's own thread, is it possible to acquire girls when a lesbian customer doesn't pay?

Yes, I believe you can (and probably do).  The script that handles deadbeat customers doesn't check to see if the customer was male or female, though, so lesbian deadbeats will seem to undergo a retroactive sex change when the script initiates.  I think it likely that this will be corrected when the scripting system is overhauled.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: DocClox on January 16, 2010, 02:47:58 PM
As a side question not worthy of it's own thread, is it possible to acquire girls when a lesbian customer doesn't pay?
I should probably point out that the brother/sister incest thing takes us into uncharted waters, in so far as we'd need to track male slaves and the easiest way to do that would be to allow both genders as slaves and whores. Not something that particularly appeals to me, but it would be the way to go. If we did, I'd probably have male/female distribution ratios in the config so you could ensure that all your random girls, for example, would indeed be female.

Just a thought, anyway

Yes, I believe you can (and probably do).  The script that handles deadbeat customers doesn't check to see if the customer was male or female, though, so lesbian deadbeats will seem to undergo a retroactive sex change when the script initiates.  I think it likely that this will be corrected when the scripting system is overhauled.

Sounds sensible to me
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Zeus on January 16, 2010, 03:59:30 PM
so, is there a chance that you impliment Male Slaves (Also Yaoi/Gay Sex?) sounds funny ^^
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: DocClox on January 16, 2010, 04:03:39 PM
Not planning on implementing it. Might set it up so a yaoi modpack would be possible, if anyone cared to create one.

Really though, I'm just pointing out that this is logically where the current discussion heads.

It's like the minimum age discussion going on elsewhere - it's useful to consider where it leads.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: zodiac44 on January 16, 2010, 04:42:45 PM
Personally, I'm not interested in enabling either the brother/sister incest thing or gay stuff.  It's fine if that's your thing, but it's not my cup of tea, so I'm in favor of leaving in the territory of modable, but not in the core game.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Sigfried666 on January 16, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
Perhaps that's why I hadn't tought of it. The idea of male slaves didn't ever ocurr to me. Not against it, and I believe there would be a market for it in the town of Crossgate. But not my cup of tea either.
Tough I still think mother/daughter, and sister/sister lesbian incest would be niiiice...

I got it. I am not evil. I am a pervert.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: DocClox on January 16, 2010, 06:31:24 PM
From a scripting point of view, it would be easy enough to change the deadbeat kidnap case to include abducting a brother and forcing incest. And assuming we get parent tracking, and implement placing male offspring into the goon squads, it might be possible to script that, too.

So I suppose there are things that can be done without making major changes, which sounds like the way to go, to me.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: Mehzerz on January 17, 2010, 03:52:22 AM
I didn't even consider male slaves. I like the game without it honestly... I wouldn't care for the addition. More power to anyone who prefers that.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: chromeo on January 17, 2010, 01:14:22 PM
I saw a list somewhere on the interwebs called the "Everyone, Everywhere" list, which purports to be a list of all of the common first and last names, sorted by culture and sex.  I might be able to dig it up again.

I've got it, somewhere, or at least I used to.  If not I've got the Gygax book o names.  I'll see what I can do about those files later on if y'all want?
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: ShiningRadiance on January 17, 2010, 08:30:05 PM
Oh, I didn't mean male slaves.

I meant having one of your sons who is in a gang participate in a 'training' session with his younger sister in the dungeon.
Title: Re: daughters and sons
Post by: zodiac44 on January 17, 2010, 08:59:04 PM
I've got it, somewhere, or at least I used to.  If not I've got the Gygax book o names.  I'll see what I can do about those files later on if y'all want?

Cool.  I met with my gaming group today and it turns out one of them has it (somewhere), so I should be able to come up with it if you can't find yours.