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PyTFall => PyTFall: General information => Topic started by: Xela on July 22, 2015, 06:16:34 PM

Title: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on July 22, 2015, 06:16:34 PM
We are now @ GitHub!

Repo: https://github.com/Xela00/PyTFall
Preferred Software: https://sourceforge.net/projects/gitextensions/
Ren'Py: http://www.renpy.org/latest.html
Packs: This forum


We are always looking for new crew, let us know if you are willing to help :)
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: harryp21 on August 14, 2015, 07:56:41 AM
i can not seem to play the new demo nor can i add it to the current game folder without getting errors from the start ?

Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on August 14, 2015, 08:56:31 AM
You cannot play the dev version, old alpha release should work as it is distributed. It is not useful to try and mix the code.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: harryp21 on August 14, 2015, 09:11:54 AM
even with version 0.45 i seem to have trouble keeps crashsing even now i try to reinstal the game

also i always seem to get error messages when i want to add a girls pack from the forum
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on August 14, 2015, 09:25:37 AM
These packs are no longer compatible with the Alpha. You can use the packs shipped with the game or WM packs.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: harryp21 on August 14, 2015, 09:31:03 AM
okey thanks for the advice ill keep that in mind
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: laposteb on May 18, 2016, 10:16:32 AM
Hello !
I have the repository since you post, but apparently you do not add models by default? I still have the same problem from the beginning when I start a new game I have this error:
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463583577-error.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463583577-error.jpg)
(I have pull master)

I think that's just doing it finds no character, yet I have a folder filled as indicated on this post:

http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3403.msg35592#msg35592
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463583575-folder.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463583575-folder.jpg)

I know the game is not finished yet but I would have liked to have a look except I can not add a single pack ...
You not have a pack with just a girl and a picture I can see how it works after I manage ?
You can also add a default girl in your repository  ;)

Sorry for my english it's google trad xD
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on May 18, 2016, 11:05:39 AM
I think you just need to download the new packs, this sort of thing can happen if you're using old data files/pictures.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: DarkTl on May 18, 2016, 11:20:55 AM
I don't think data files for Cherry's pack are available for download though... I attached to this post example of character file.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: laposteb on May 18, 2016, 12:06:24 PM
Arf, I am bad  :'(

after try in naruto folder I try that
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463591049-test-1.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463591049-test-1.jpg)
and that
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463591050-test-2.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463591050-test-2.jpg)
but doesn't work
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on May 18, 2016, 12:19:31 PM
(http://s32.postimg.org/rlh4o18ld/2016_05_18_20_15_27.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rlh4o18ld/) (http://s32.postimg.org/dkebtyjsx/2016_05_18_20_16_18.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/dkebtyjsx/) (http://s32.postimg.org/9svkg5rcx/2016_05_18_20_16_41.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/9svkg5rcx/) (http://s32.postimg.org/co8nn0vcx/2016_05_18_20_17_21.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/co8nn0vcx/)
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: laposteb on May 18, 2016, 12:39:25 PM
Ok, thanks Xela and DarkTl.
I go download pack of random chars, I don't have your folder "rchars"

Edit:
No, its not working either.

(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463595330-test-1.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463595330-test-1.jpg)
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463595328-test-2.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463595328-test-2.jpg)
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463595331-test-3.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463595331-test-3.jpg)
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463595331-test-4.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463595331-test-4.jpg)

the same error :
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463595334-erro2r.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463595334-erro2r.jpg)

If I ignore it I have a other error :
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463595330-error.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463595330-error.jpg)

I think it's my install of Ren'Py install is improper.
I give up, I would expect the final version.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on May 18, 2016, 03:44:50 PM
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463595330-error.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463595330-error.jpg)

I think it's my install of Ren'Py install is improper.
I give up, I would expect the final version.

Yeah...

1) Your Ren'Py version is too old.
2) You PyTFall version is too old.

== nothing works :(
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: laposteb on May 18, 2016, 04:49:31 PM
I update ren'py for version 6.99-10 without believing it and know I found the characters lost xD
(http://image.noelshack.com/minis/2016/20/1463607586-test-1.png) (http://www.noelshack.com/2016-20-1463607586-test-1.jpg)
Sorry for inconvenience.

I do not think playing long time, I trust you I had many love the first alpha version.
Continue like this  ;)
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on May 18, 2016, 04:50:36 PM
You can't really play the game properly, I mean even buildings are not setup :D It's why it's called a dev version.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Wingedra on May 19, 2016, 10:18:36 PM
pytfall 0.56 ver? i thought the latest one was 0.45.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: DarkTl on May 20, 2016, 12:22:45 AM
The current dev version is 0.56. Iirc 0.45 is the released alpha.

It's just a number though, it's not like version changes after every single change in the code, even major one.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 06, 2016, 01:02:54 PM
im looking into helping with the game, first have to get a good understanding of your coding style and renpy's language

Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 06, 2016, 01:06:45 PM
General rule is to keep the code as simple and as readable as possible. There is no coding style or paradigm because that just slows everything down. A bunch of people worked on the game so it's a mixed code base and not all of it is in use.

We're also using an advanced module called SimPy at the moment to simulate jobs which is not very easy to figure out.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 06, 2016, 01:28:04 PM
the only problem im having currently is im running linux instead of windows. got tired of windows 10 having issues

Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 06, 2016, 11:40:39 PM
General rule is to keep the code as simple and as readable as possible. There is no coding style or paradigm because that just slows everything down. A bunch of people worked on the game so it's a mixed code base and not all of it is in use.

We're also using an advanced module called SimPy at the moment to simulate jobs which is not very easy to figure out.




i have SimPy installed (i belive, depends on version)
but im going to take time to get used to renpy and the like

Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 07, 2016, 12:08:44 AM
Linux shouldn't be an issue, SimPy is in the repo so you don't really have to install it. Code base for the game is huge so it'll take a while to figure everything out.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: DarkTl on June 07, 2016, 03:02:20 AM
I don't think the current tagger will work on linux btw, without wine at least. That would require a different compilation mode for the exe.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 07, 2016, 04:24:04 AM
It's only to make packs + Mute can code his own tagger for linux if he wants to :D
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 07, 2016, 06:16:06 AM
is that where i should be looking at the start is the tagger, if you dont mind can you let me know where to look
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 07, 2016, 06:39:17 AM
is that where i should be looking at the start is the tagger, if you dont mind can you let me know where to look

I don't think that you need tagger at all, it's useless cause we have more than enough packs you can download to start the game and test it. The logic of the game is written in Python, content partly in JSON and partly in Ren'Py script.

The whole game consists of many concepts that are intertwined, learning all of it even if you know Python really well may take weeks, so I guess you need to figure out the basics and find something you'd be interested in to work on, there are many, many options.

For a lot of stuff you don't even need to know Python, just have some imagination.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 07, 2016, 06:52:16 AM
where can i find girls?
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: DarkTl on June 07, 2016, 09:25:13 AM
Here (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3401.0).
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 07, 2016, 10:59:08 AM
Here (http://www.pinkpetal.org/index.php?topic=3401.0).


Are those updated for the development version or are the girls not going to change,


Also will the develop version still allow for girls from WM:CPP?
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: DarkTl on June 07, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
Pictures are not going to change. Data files might change, and are updated if I'm not mistaken. Data files are small anyway, and can be easily redownloaded.

Dunno about classic WM packs, Xela should know it.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 07, 2016, 11:33:47 AM
awsome thanks, ill check with him when he gets on
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 07, 2016, 11:47:08 AM
I don't think that classic packs work anymore. With so many native packs, I am reluctant to still run wm packs in PyTFall. Those are definitely not even remotely useful for development.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 07, 2016, 12:07:40 PM
no worries was more of trying to get an idea of where you guys are atm, im trying to figure out the source code for game atm,
sorry honestly only second time ive touched Python, and the first time i was using binary data not json
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 07, 2016, 12:45:42 PM
no worries was more of trying to get an idea of where you guys are atm, im trying to figure out the source code for game atm,

We're trying to keep everything as local as possible, without too much fuss where that's not required.

sorry honestly only second time ive touched Python, and the first time i was using binary data not json

There is a lot you can do without advanced knowledge of Python, I think knowing how the game works in general is more important. JSON/Binary doesn't matter much, you can replace 2 lines of code per loading routine and everything will be stored in/loaded from binary, that part is not really relevant to anything.

====>>
It's not easy to get involved with the project so far along, especially if you want to work on the core code... but even without that, you can work in many areas with just the limited knowledge of the games, like for example MC Setups at game start (we actually have 0 MC setups at the beginning of the game), new areas/events (requires basic understanding of Python/Ren'Py, mostly you can gather everything that you need from examples we already have), attacks/animations for BE, and generally more content in any area of the game.

I doubt that you can just jump into development of core code and especially buildings/jobs (in development at the moment) with just the basic knowledge of Python, techniques used there are very demanding.

But we have a dev environment setup so you can contribute whatever you feel like freely.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 07, 2016, 12:57:36 PM
Ill look into it and see what i can do btw mind adding me on skype again i kinda lost most of my contacts [email protected]
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 16, 2016, 10:50:29 PM
Hey Xela, mind giving me some tips on plugins to use for jedit
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 17, 2016, 03:09:12 AM
Hey Xela, mind giving me some tips on plugins to use for jedit

All plugins are downloaded/installed automatically. Project Viewer is the most import one to have. I also use a couple of others like whitespace, testautocomplete, actionhooks and etc. but you can make your own list. Program is really weak without Project Viewer, rest is not all that important.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 17, 2016, 03:19:51 AM
alrighty, im trying to learn renpy by making own game

Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: MuteDay on June 17, 2016, 03:24:27 PM
only thing im really not understanding is the making new screens




know any good tutorials?
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: Xela on June 18, 2016, 07:52:42 AM
Not really, and you're posting off topic, gen discussion is prolly a more appropriate place.

Screens are generally used to build interface, there are many examples in pytfall and you can find even more in cookbook section of lemma (renpy) forums.
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: liledition on July 09, 2016, 12:09:15 PM
Hello

I am getting an error at start.

EDIT: Nevermind game is unplayable nearly all locations have errors in them...
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: krakr on August 28, 2016, 03:35:41 AM
I'm around guys. I can finish the texts I promised, not as unique as I wanted, but I do have 1 set final, it will be easy to search-replace key words & then doctor a few words.
I've been gone a long time, perhaps you did it anyway?
When I feel up to it, I'll complete the 2's & the 1's if they haven't been done yet.
I SOOOOOOOOO wanna play the Beta
Title: Re: =PyTFall= Communication and Repository Information
Post by: DarkTl on August 28, 2016, 05:54:27 AM
No, we were busy improving other parts of the game like exploration engine and battle engine, in hopes that you or some other writer will finish them before beta so there won't be a need for us to do it  :)
I have your texts backuped, naturally.