Unrestricted Crazy's mod [No age limits]

[a3535196]

Because setting a "legal" age limit in a game based on slavery & rape is laughable, and demonstrates severe mental health issues in terms of differentiating between fact and fiction, here's a modified exe you can use instead of the original for WhoreMaster's Crazy mod version 0.5p-1.

The mod sets the age limit to 3 instead of 18. You can still have all girls above 18 (or above 65 for all I care) via modding girlsx and rgirlsx files. In other words the mod doesn't force you to play with 3 year olds, nor does it force you to play with under 18's (or under 16's like the UK, or 15's like Sweden, or 14's like Germany, or 13's like Spain. Because different countries have different laws. Surprise). This mod just gives you the freedom (dirty word I know, sorry) to set your own limits.

Don't like it? Don't use it.

Download:
http://www.uploadmb.com/dw.php?id=1402512036
http://up.ht/SNIyiM

Edit: I'm not updating my file for newer versions. If you're interested in doing so yourself while avoiding all the useless arguments below you can skip directly to the DIY guide.

[Destont]

Maybe it's just me being crazy(no pun intended truly) but didn't this happen before?

[Pashax2]

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again. This is the sixth time that we have destroyed Crazy's mod, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

[Kestin]

Great! thank you

[aevojoey]

Because setting a "legal" age limit in a game based on slavery & rape is laughable, and demonstrates severe mental health issues in terms of differentiating between fact and fiction,

I understand your argument, however laws are not always made by reasonable people.
Here in America, the people who will enforce the 18 age limits don't care about adults.
An adult can torture and rape another adult and get out of prison before someone who has pictures of an underage children.
A 16 year old can drive drunk, crash his car into another car killing 4 people and get off with just a warning.

The "severe mental health issues" are not on our side, they are the reason we obey the law.

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again. This is the sixth time that we have destroyed Crazy's mod, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

So Crazy is Morpheus and I am Neo trying to save the game?

[a3535196]

Here in America, the people who will enforce the 18 age limits don't care about adults.

I think it's more like they don't care about "males" and always demonize them. You can see this in all fields from legal to education to media, but that's a discussion for another day.

An adult can torture and rape another adult and get out of prison before someone who has pictures of an underage children.

We discussed this before on the other thread. I explained that simply stamping a cartoon image of a girl clearly under 9 with 18 won't convince them it's "not child porn" if they're crazy enough to think it's child porn without the 18.

The "severe mental health issues" are not on our side, they are the reason we obey the law.

True, but no government will ever prosecute you for rolling a version without age limits, especially if it has no images. Anyone who then "abuses" your work by adding "child porn" in the character folder or .girlsx files would be solely responsible for their "crimes".

[Drugas]

Actually... they will in the USA. It is the statement OR the images that count. You could post a cartoon image of a grandma and call it three and it's still child pornography. Welcome to America, land of the free!

What's more is that possession of 'child pornography' is more than fines and jail time. You also get the modern equivalent of a scarlet letter. Added to the sex registry list.

That is why crazy's mod has those minimums. To protect the developers from that. Plausable deniability requires it. They actually went a step further and artifically bloated the code with anti-underage stuff though. You can't blame a single contributor of the SVN for this one. They were careful to prevent it!

Good on you a3535196 for taking the potential legal concequences upon yourself.

I was more curious about the max age in the files than the min though. No GILFs? Not that I'm into that, but as long as they are alive, 35+ (or whatever it is) are fair game.

[GonDra]

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We discussed this before on the other thread.
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This whole thing was discussed YEARS ago - the express wish of the developer(s) of the original version is not to host or link a version of the game without an reasonable age limit.

You have a poor understanding of the legal system if you think that your argument would work well in any court - especially if it is pretty simple to show that an age limit existed for several years.
This is about being able to plausably deny any involvement with anything of the sort.

We can't stop you from making a version without an age limit but I and most of the community too would appreciate if you didn't jeopardize this forum in the process.

Edit: ah drugas beat me to the deniability argument...

[aevojoey]

I was more curious about the max age in the files than the min though. No GILFs? Not that I'm into that, but as long as they are alive, 35+ (or whatever it is) are fair game.

The max age in the game is currently 80.
If their age is above 80 it is set to 80 and if it is above 100 it is set to 100 and then displays as ( ??? )
Elves in particular are rather proud that their age can be well over 1000 so I do need to change it.
It would be easy to increase the max age to 32000, the only problem is many of the girlsx file have 100 as their go to number for unknown age so they would all have to be checked.

Good on you a3535196 for taking the potential legal concequences upon yourself.

That is probably why he uses a number for his name.

[Xela]

(or under 16's like the UK, or 15's like Sweden, or 14's like Germany, or 13's like Spain. Because different countries have different laws. Surprise).

You misunderstand the difference between legal age of consent and child pornography laws (drawn stuff often falls into this category, insane as it is), those two are different in all countries you've mentioned and are usually 18 (as suggested by Interpol I believe).

They were careful to prevent it!

Do characters actually die or become increasingly less desirable by majority of clients as they are aging? I don't recall even seeing that code in WM so age attribute is used very scarcely. The bottomline is that they'd be better of without it all together...

As for "Plausible deniability", Vanilla version of WM will land you in jail in US if I understood the precedents correctly. Crazies mod is less likely to do so as it is released without images and when paired with characters like Rangikou, Youruichi, Erza and etc. preferably all set to above 18 is absolutely safe...

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If we're talking law, in precedents, words like "original source" had been thrown around. So the perfect example would be Post-Skip version of Hinata from Naruto, a very popular character who's age in the source is 16 while noone in their right mind could tell that from 99% of her pics (that could not be judged underage by parameters set in those laws based on appearance).

So if she's specified 16 in the game and you'd find yourself in UK/Australia/US etc. (in unlikely event that your PC/Laptop finds it's way to the law and they decide to waste their time prosecuting you instead of some actual criminal) that prosecuted people for Drawn stuff before and she's also 16 in the source, chances are that you screwed. If she's specified as 18, it is a hell load less likely to fly and 17 would prolly be somewhere in the grey area...

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Another bottomline is that age can be hardly used in the game logically since it's about a magical universe where a girl can be immortal/don't change with age while bring mortal, drink some potion to stay alive/young/combination of both so actually using that in the game will bring more issues that it would solve... (pics don't really age either btw...) making it a semi-useless field that brings a shitloads of trouble and repeated discussions without realistic added benefit...


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Edit: ah drugas beat me to the deniability argument...

And you beat me to a couple of mine

[crazy]

I raises the age to 18 and don't release it with any girls to try and cover my ass if anything was to happen and that's how my mod is staying. Thanks for making this its own topic as I have nothing to do with lowering the age and never will

[Xela]

I raises the age to 18 and don't release it with any girls to try and cover my ass if anything was to happen and that's how my mod is staying. Thanks for making this its own topic as I have nothing to do with lowering the age and never will

And that's the healthiest attitude from developers point of perspective since it's not your task to battle absurdities of laws/violations of constitutional rights.

I myself don't really give a crap either way since in my country of residence the harshest penalty for any actual cp is a fine of 1000 Euro and legal precedents for lolicon are non-existent  but majority of people here are interested in a decent game to play and that's what it's all about in the end of a day. Your mod delivers just that and when paired with characters that are defined as adults in the eyes if law anywhere is absolutely safe, I'd just say: Keep at it. and that's that

[a3535196]

Actually... they will in the USA. It is the statement OR the images that count. You could post a cartoon image of a grandma and call it three and it's still child pornography

and she's also 16 in the source, chances are that you screwed.

Both of you, please provide proof such as a written law or a legal precedent.

I raises the age to 18 and don't release it with any girls to try and cover my ass if anything was to happen and that's how my mod is staying. Thanks for making this its own topic as I have nothing to do with lowering the age and never will

You don't need to, because I already did. However nobody said anything about "lowering the age", I was suggesting the limit is removed altogether. I've never read of a law criminalizing coding games with no age limits. If somebody uses a girlsx with underage then it's his "fault".

That is probably why he uses a number for his name.

Right. Because everybody here put their first and last names in their nicks.

What a bunch of scared rats. You fear laws which don't even exist. No wonder the government grows more and more tyrannical with such a cowardly attitude. Can any of you cite one law or one case study from where he lives indicating any of that bullshit?

[Xela]

Both of you, please provide proof such as a written law or a legal precedent.
You don't need to, because I already did. However nobody said anything about "lowering the age", I was suggesting the limit is removed altogether. I've never read of a law criminalizing coding games with no age limits. If somebody uses a girlsx with underage then it's his "fault".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_child_pornography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

I don't know... there so many legal presidents in the world that quoting all of the this making it a spam post. As I've said before, a very specific set of specifications have been laid out by a vast majority of countries like US/UK/Australia that would put Rukia from Bleach in category that ensures you jailtime while putting Matsumoto is the cat that is absolutely safe due to huge freaking breasts and large hip + age from the source.

"In the end of a day" as I've repeatedly stated, if you're prosecuted in one of those counterfeits, you'd be very likely to find yourself making a deal with prosecution instead of having yourself facing a bunch of "law abiding" and "morally superior" Jury that would sentence you for years f jail time if given a chance.. (When shit hits the fan so to speak*)

If you read the wiki posts and links leading to them, you'd come to the same conclusion unless you're from living permanently in a country such as Bulgaria (as I am currently am) k, that has a whole different set of laws that are less likely to end up in jail time...

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Follow these links to their sources and state the reasons that you do not believe their validity, because in the end of the day as I've stated n numerous times by now, you'd be facing a Jury that would conciser that views and the "law" as superior form of "world view" and you'd be screwed entirely and completely...

[a3535196]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

I repeatedly said nobody will be prosecuted for *coding* a game with no age limits if it has no images. I further insisted that an illegal cartoon depicting a child  would still be illegal if you put the number 18 beside it. Why then are you giving me a link proving the criminalization of images when this fact is not disputed? That's called a straw man fallacy. You're dodging my question by answering another which I didn't even ask.

"In the end of a day" as I've repeatedly stated, if you're prosecuted in one of those counterfeits, you'd be very likely to find yourself making a deal with prosecution instead of having yourself facing a bunch of "law abiding" and "morally superior" Jury that would sentence you for years f jail time if given a chance.. (When shit hits the fan so to speak*)

I'm not interested in hypothetical scenarios. You might as well tell me I'll go to jail if I don't eat 3 potatoes at breakfast. Still waiting for your evidence.